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1 posted on 01/11/2011 5:44:44 AM PST by SJackson
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Her religion doesn't appear to have been a factor at all, nor do I think it's appropriate to cite this tragedy to change Israel's laws.

2 posted on 01/11/2011 5:47:04 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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JINOs? The same folks who would roll out the red carpet for their Pallie pals to take over modern Israel?

A country-without-borders is an anarchy.


3 posted on 01/11/2011 5:53:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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Sheesh. I remember when the JPost was a respectable paper.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 6:13:00 AM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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It was her “sense of the Jewish value around how we treat the stranger” that informed Giffords on the highly divisive issue of rights for undocumented immigrants in her border state

Oh my God, where the hell is the BARF ALERT???

This assclown even repeats the long-discredited "link" to AmRen.

7 posted on 01/11/2011 6:13:08 AM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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we can't ignore reality that many “non-Jews” are more Jewish than their “Jewish” fellows.

Paul Wellstone became a senator because of this. His republican opponent, Rudy Boschwitz, made a pitch for support at a Jewish community center. Part of his case was that Wellstone, while ethnically Jewish, wasn't religious like Rudy was.

This leaked out and big headlines in the democrat dailies around the state said Boschwitz to Wellstone: "I'm A Better Jew Than You"

Probably cost Rudy the election.

9 posted on 01/11/2011 6:35:42 AM PST by DManA
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14 posted on 01/11/2011 7:47:06 AM PST by onedoug
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Leave it to the Jewish Left to seize the recent tragedy as an opportunity to trumpet their inane and/or irrelevant ideas. Some choice morsels from the posted piece:

It was her "sense of the Jewish value about how we treat the stranger" that that informed Giffords on the highly divisive issue of rights for undocumented aliens.

Really? Fist of all, this is not "the (individual) stranger" we are talking about in this context, rather it is a massive influx demanding "group rights." Beside the fact that nothing in our American Constitution and laws allows trespassing on our land, nothing in Judaism compels a Jew to to allow unrestricted entrance on his land nor to respect foreigners who enter his land illegally. This holds even more so when the illegal entrants commonly suck large amounts of money out of the taxpaying citizenry of the host, commonly commit crimes against the endogenous population, generally have no interest in assimilation to the host culture, and sometimes even advocate taking the very land they are invading.

Giffords's very Jewishness might have been a motive in the shooting. Jared Loughner is believed to have had links to ... an ...anti-Semitic organization.

Oh my, how the Left wishes that the gunman were a known anti-Semite and that the motivation for the shooting was so crystal clear. But those are not the facts. The evidence up to this point indicates that Loughner is a paranoid schizophrenic and was indiscriminate in his choice of victims. The M. O. was obviously not consistent with the typical American "hate crime."

...[Giffords'] grandfather, Akiba Hornstein, changed his name to Giffords after moving from New York to Arizona "in part because he did not want his Jewishness to be an issue in unfamiliar territory." Perhaps the grandfather's visceral survival instinct was right on target. The shooting definitely raises concerns about renewed anti-Semitism.

What nonsense! The grandfather was probably embarrassed about his Jewish origins, certainly not proud. Contrast Giffords' grandfather to another famous Jewish Arizona grandfather: Morris Goldwater, grandfather of Barry. He arrived in Arizona before statehood, and not only retained his original surname, but displayed it as the name of his retail outlets (Goldwater's), becoming very successful in the process.

Giffords:"In my family, if you want to get something done, you take it to the Jewish woman relatives."

Is this a quote that deserves praise? Sounds as if the male relatives - Jewish and non-Jewish - are a bunch of eunuchs. Sexism, anyone?

...more and more people like Giffords have made a conscious choice to identify as Jews, yet have no intention of undergoing a conversion.

What's up with that? Seems as if you are not born a Jew and wish to identify as a Jew and are serious about it, taking the time and effort to undergo a conversion (in whichever denomination of Judaism) would be perfectly appropriate. It certainly wouldn't harm the individual. Contrary to the author of this piece, becoming Jewish is not the same as playing leftist political games.

20 posted on 01/11/2011 4:33:46 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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We are commanded to take care of the poor. What falls to the ground during the harvest is to be left there for the poor, and the poor are to be permitted to come in at night and eat their fill, but not to carry any away with them.

When strangers, such as the Midianites, came in and ravaged the land and stole the products of the Israelites, G-d chose someone, such as Gideon, to drive them out. Some, such as the Amalekites, were so evil that Israel was commanded to kill them all.

There is nothing preventing individual Americans from sending aid to poor people in Mexico, but there is nothing that commands us to sit idly by while Mexicans come in and ravage the land.


33 posted on 01/12/2011 7:00:05 AM PST by Daveinyork
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