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To: nosf40
Which government agency will issue a document, if your application contains an image posted on the web as a proof of your birthplace?

No one has ever said they will, and only a moron could think that retort is relevant to anything under discussion.

The assumption that Hawai DoH issued a valid COLB to Obama is a mighty big one. The DoH refuses to answer the direct question whether they issued a copy of birth certificate to Obama on June 6, 2007!

No, it's not a very big assumption at all if one doesn't bring a massive chip on their shoulder to the argument. It looks like the type of document Hawaii produces; in fact, save for the color, it looks pretty much like what I can get from my state. The telling point that never gets addressed in any of these fantasies is a very simple one. Obama's campaign prof erred an image of a birth record, which they have let others examine. They were under no obligation to profer anything and did so simply as an informative courtesy.

The hopelessly feverish, initiated by the contemptible Polarik, then went off on all their fantasy reasons why that document was a fraud without answering a simple question. Specifically, fraudulent state documents have no privacy protection. If the document presented as a state document is not legitimate, that is, if it does not accurately reflect Hawaii's records, the state is legally free and clear to say so. Indeed, they have a legal obligation to do so in the face of fraud. That the state of Hawaii has not disputed the facts of the document Obama's campaign presented speaks volumes to objective observers. That the state has indeed affirmed the facts in question is definitive for anyone willing to be convinced.

Against that, we have simply cut-and-paste recycling of then same tired arguments and half truths whose deficiencies are obvious to anyone with legal experience.

70 posted on 01/10/2011 8:04:38 PM PST by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: tired_old_conservative

Do you still believe claims from Colin Powell’s presentation to UN about readily deployable WMDs in Iraq? Even the CIA director said that the case was a “slam dunk”. The high ranking government officials always tell the truth, right?

You are relying on Obama telling the truth about receiving the document from Hawaii DoH.

There is no reason to rely on a word spoken by a habitual liar. There is an easy way to verify his claim, and it involves the release of PUBLIC information that should not depend on his willingness to approve the release of data.

The DoH has been asked to confirm that they issued COLB to Obama on June 6, 2007 and they REFUSE to do so. I cannot think of a more trivial confirmation.

You know that registration number 10641 does not fit well the Date Filed (August 8, 1961), do you?
Compare the alleged Obama certificate with Nordyke long form certificates and explain how is it possible that certificates originating in the same hospital could be processed three days apart and Obama receiving higher number three days earlier if local birth registrar sent registrations to the central DoH office on WEEKLY basis?

Obama’s document should have shown the same Date Filed as Nordyke certificates (August 11, 1961), if the official story about Kapiolani birth were true.

Unfortunately for Obots, the official story is a lie and the COLB is a forgery.

Magic explanation is simple: “unattended birth Registration”.


71 posted on 01/10/2011 8:29:47 PM PST by nosf40
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