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Having said what I already have, it may surprise you that I agree with you here. I recognize what the Constitutional merits are here. Still, there are grave shortcomings to those Constitutional merits aren’t there. And this case is a case that reaveals the extreme nature of those shortcomings. On the one hand you have the real possiblity of having an illigitimate president. On the other you have the granting of power only to Congress, and it won’t get off it’s ass to do anything about this.

Here are two issues covered by the U. S. Constitution.

1. The president must be natural born.
2. Only Congress can remove

Congress couldn’t care less that issue one above may be in a failed state.

The Courts honor issue two religiously.

So we have one branch of government that may be fraudulent. We have another sticking to it’s guns on the matter of Issue 2, and another AWOL on both.

Let’s not forget that we presently have two branches of our government that very well could be in violation of Issue 1 listed above. Namely, the President remains in power even though he may be aware he is not qualified. Secondly, Congress has taken a pass on honoring their Constiututional duty, have made a granting of permission to break Issue 1 through default, and a failing to make sure the president does serve in accordance with the U. S. Constitution.

However, this matter has not been taken up by Congress in the two years since Obama was sworn in. What recourse is there for citizens? Neither party will touch it. So the possibility of us not having a legitimate head of state goes un-addressed.

Yep, you’ve laid it out very clearly. And about all you have proven, is that two years on, we may very well have a rogue president and there isn’t anything any citizen can do to get this addressed.

I recognize that we do not want every Tom, Dick, and Harriet suing the President of the United States for whatever reason they come up with, but on a matter of Constitutionality, namely, “Who is in control of our nuclear football, and is he a treasonous bastard or not?” this should be a question even one citizen could force an answer on.

If it’s a Constitutional matter, I should be able to file a grievance with my Representative that would cause an immediate review on Capital Hill. And if I am not satisfied with the evidence that is presented to me at the end of quick review, I should be able to force a more in depth review. All Constitutional grounds merits or requirements would HAVE TO BE MET.

Allowing a stonewalling of this for over two years makes this a banana republic. And right now, we have a president that is governing like a banana republic’s head of state.

I think you are confusing winning in Court with having one’s day in Court. Thus far there have been about 90 adjudicated lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility. These lawsuits have been heard in local courts, in state courts, in federal courts, in state and federal appeals courts and 10 times now at the Supreme Court of the United States.

More than 120 different judges and justices (counting multi-judge panels and the nine Supreme Court Justices) have had a chance to read legal briefs on this issue. Not one single judge has agreed with any plaintiff that Obama MIGHT possibly be ineligible.

As I already said, any prosecuting attorney in a state with a grand jury system could investigate this issue. None have.

Every serious constitutional challenge regarding the presidency over the last fifty years of American history has been investigated by a Grand Jury: Watergate, Iran-Contra, the Savings and Loan Scandal, Whitewater-Filegate-Travelgate-Vince Foster, the Paula Jones sexual harassment suit, Monica Lewinsky, and the CIA leaks-Valerie Plame-Scooter Libby affair, plus many others all warranted a Grand Jury investigation.

Any House of any state legislature where Obama’s name was on the ballot could investigate this issue. None have.

Any member of Congress could make a speech from the floor of the House or the Well of the Senate asking for a Special Counsel or a Congressional investigation. None have.

In my humble opinion, the reason that none of the actions listed above have occurred is because of the definitive statements of the REPUBLICAN administration in Hawaii that just left office and had control of Obama’s birth documents from February 10, 2007 when he announced that he was running for President until December 6, 2010 when that administration left office.

The two most definitive statements from Hawaii come from the Director of Health: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen.” July 27, 2009

And the statement of Governor Linda Lingle of Hawaii: “You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again, I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the President was, in fact, born at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by the people who continue this. It’s been established. He was born here.”—
Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle, May 2, 2010

Now those two statements may not be definitive to you but they have definitely proven to be definitive to judges, justices and members of state legislatures and the US Congress.

Just last week: “The state of Hawaii says that the President was born there. That’s good enough for me.”—Representative John Boehner, Speaker of the House of Representatives

On nearly **every** thread you post the same carefully masturbated verbal drivel from Lingle and Fukino.

Well....If it is soooooooooo plainly evident that Obama is a natural born citizen, he should promptly release **all** of the **best** evidence that would prove or disprove his natural born citizenship.

Obama does not because he can not!

jamese777...I suggest that you view the Yuri Bezmenov videos. Please remember that the very first people the communists lined up against the wall and shot were the Useful Idiots.

The American public deserves to KNOW with the **best** evidence, especially our military, that we have a natural born citizen sitting as president. Without a sound foundation of rule of law based upon our Constitution we edge closer and closer to the dystopia predicted by Yuri Bezmenov.

And the statement of Governor Linda Lingle of Hawaii: “You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again, I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the President was, in fact, born at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. ..."

Maybe you can explain why, in the process of campaigning for McCain in early October 2008, that Lingle did NOT have her health director release a public statement until Oct. 31, four days prior to the election. Lingle evidently didn't know anything about Obama's birth records during the time she was campaigning for McCain. Further, Lingle told a naughty, naughty lie, because the public statement on Oct. 31 did NOT say Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital NOR did it even say Obama was born in Hawaii. Why do you keep spreading this thoroughly debunked falsehood??