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Left-Wing Blame Game Won't Work With Arizona Tragedy
National Review ^ | 1/10/2011 | Carol Platt Liebau

Posted on 01/10/2011 4:57:00 AM PST by Servant of the Cross

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To: Diogenesis

Potatoes are living things that lie on the ground when it is warm in the year 9,199,374,283,485,202 B.C.E.

Jared Loughner is a living thing that lies on the ground in the year 9,199,374,283,485,202 B.C.E.

Therefore, Jared Loughner is a potato.


21 posted on 01/10/2011 6:00:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: bronxville

There are rational leftist web sites?


22 posted on 01/10/2011 6:02:58 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: dawn53
The truth is what the truth is...no need for those on the right to like this commie to the left...he already did it himself. It is the left lying through their teeth trying to like this obvious deranged commie to the patriots of this country.
23 posted on 01/10/2011 6:10:29 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Servant of the Cross

The media don’t need to give Gov. Palin an opportunity. All she has to do is post to her Facebook page and her views are instantly known: even the most doctrinaire leftist running a major daily or network newsroom doesn’t want to play catchup in reporting what would inevitably be all over the blogosphere in under half an hour.


24 posted on 01/10/2011 6:14:01 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The dipstick sheriff made it so much easier to discredit the big lie. Not that those scummy left wing pols won’t try to blame Sarah and the tea party.


25 posted on 01/10/2011 6:15:33 AM PST by Carley (PRINTING OPINION, IGNORING THE FACTS......the msm!!!)
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To: The_Reader_David

This is true. But she’ll also want to make sure this post is well thought out and not in the ‘heat of the moment’. The focus should be on the victims and their families right now.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 6:20:54 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Americans have become skeptical of cynical efforts to stigmatize entire ideologies based only on the actions of lone, clearly deranged criminals. That’s especially true where, as here, there’s no real evidence that the suspect actually subscribed to any coherent political creed.

Too sanguine by half! Many of my nonpolitical, "social" interests seem to attract people towards the left end of the political spectrum (typically THEY think they're moderates) and apolitical people who are completely uninformed (ie they parrot whatever the media tells them is The Truth). On those boards, it's all Water is wet. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Jared Lee Loughner was inspired by Sarah Palin's rhetoric and is probably a teabagger. The desert is full of sand.

The UK media in the main is blaming SP and the TEA Party, too. :-(

But in the main, what truly matters is that WE let TPTB know we will NOT be made to sit down, shut up, vote for whom we're told, and pay our taxes, which is precisely how "political figures" are already trying to use this heinous crime.

27 posted on 01/10/2011 6:25:46 AM PST by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“Rush coming on today and they’re fearful”. They should be, he’s had all weekend to “stew” on all the crap that was put out. Can’t listen to him on radio.....wabc.com streams his show.


28 posted on 01/10/2011 6:32:55 AM PST by radioone (Proud to be an enemy of Obama)
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To: hennie pennie
AND why did that local sheriff who is blaming political discourse for this mass murder permit such a severely sick individual to purchase a gun and stalk the Congresswoman who'd recently gotten married to a NASA astronaut? Isn't local LE culpable for not merely ignoring this obvious psycho, much less permitting him to purchase the Glock?????

The sheriff is exploiting this in a disgusting way, but this is not a fair criticism.

Many on FR fight tooth and nail against any attempt to let local law enforcement even be aware of those who are purchasing guns, much less to have them run background checks on purchasers or give them authority to prevent people from purchasing guns.

If you insist on minimal regulation of gun purchases, you can't then turn around and criticize law enforcement for not preventing wackos from getting guns.

As I understand it, his gun was purchased legally and he passed the FBI instant background check with no problem.

Criticizing law enforcement for not preventing this is like the idiots who criticized the screeners for not stopping the 9/11 hijackers. The hijackers were not stopped because they violated no regulations up to the point they started cutting throats. This nut was not stopped because he violated no laws up till when he started shooting. We don't have "pre-crime" yet in this country.

29 posted on 01/10/2011 6:33:34 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I’ve been told by other freepers that even though he passed that FBI background check, that he should have also been checked out by the local sheriff.


30 posted on 01/10/2011 6:36:40 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Okay.

Who should have called the sherrif? The gun store? Why?


31 posted on 01/10/2011 6:38:53 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Hi, Sherman Logan.

I will get back to you later on.

I will need to go through PAGES of replies, to identify the freepers who explained that the LOCAL SHERIFF contacts people after the FBI check.... maybe???? the FBI paperwork has a carbon copy for local LEOs??? But I don't know, so I will try to find those who explained this to me yesterday.

32 posted on 01/10/2011 6:56:41 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Sherman Logan
I have no idea how I can ever find the original poster and/or original thread in which a freeper explained to me that when s/he got a conceal/carry permit and was okayed in the FBI background check, that the local sheriff spent a LONG time questioning him or her.

I was online most of the day yesterday, there is NO way that I can go through MANY pages of replies.

NO way --- so why don't you please just forget that I ever posted to this thread, as there is NO way that I am going to argue about C/C when there are EXPERTS here who know all about the local sheriffs' roles in same.

Thank you.

33 posted on 01/10/2011 7:10:43 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Thanks. If this is true, it sounds remarkably like the “registration” all good 2A types are always preaching against. I thought the whole point was that the cops or government wouldn’t know who did and did not buy or own guns.


34 posted on 01/10/2011 7:11:01 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: hennie pennie

Fine with me. Y’all have a good one.

Although I believe there’s a really big difference between merely purchasing a gun and applying for a concealed carry permit.

As there should be.


35 posted on 01/10/2011 7:13:41 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
No, I was emphatically told by a C/C-freeper that their local sheriff investigated them after the background check cleared the FBI, and that freeper stated that the local sheriff should NEVER have permitted Jerry Loughner to purchase a Glock.

Unfortunately, this is all I recall from the interchange.... that they were appalled with the local sheriff in AZ.

36 posted on 01/10/2011 7:16:11 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Sherman Logan

Thanks for the tip, who knows, MAYBE I will somehow come across the freeper in question, as it would be very interesting to learn why he was so adament about this issue —— like you, I thought there was a BIG difference between purchasing a gun and applying for a cc-permit.


37 posted on 01/10/2011 7:20:16 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Logic n' Reason
And....OBTW: I've not heard yet a peep from the "Momma Grizzly"!!
Just sayin'.....

Instead of " just sayin" ... maybe you should read more.

Sarah Palin
On the tragedy in Arizona
My sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today's tragic shooting in Arizona. On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice. -
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38 posted on 01/10/2011 7:26:07 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Carley

Notice, he also speculated without having any evidence that Loughner had an accomplice with the guy that was seen with him walking into the store and then the guy walking out by himself. I had a feeling right away that this was just a coincidence and as it turns out, the guy was a taxi driver and he walked into the store with Loughner, because he didn’t have change for the $20 bill the killer gave him


39 posted on 01/10/2011 7:49:37 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Servant of the Cross

predictably - my liberal “friends” are using this occasion to arrogantly request that we “all” (meaning - conservatives) take this opportunity to re-examine our “rhetoric”

As if I’m going to let some nutcase stifle my freedom to my own opinion.

I’ve seen this happen before, but it seems to be even more bizarre with this case.

Thoroughly disgusting.


40 posted on 01/10/2011 7:56:58 AM PST by Scotswife
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