Posted on 01/10/2011 3:32:56 AM PST by lbryce
Jared Lee Loughner’s rants about grammar and mind control track closely to the writings of a conspiracy theorist who believes that is how the government controls the populace, one leading group says – and the man tells POLITICO he agrees with some of Loughner’s statements.
The far-right activist, David Wynn Miller, said in a telephone interview that he didn’t know Loughner, but agreed with his statement in a YouTube video that “the government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.”
“Absolutely I would agree with it,” said Miller, 62, a former tool-and-die maker from Milwaukee who claims 1 billion “students” worldwide.
But he said any suggestion that his writings influenced Loughner to go on a shooting rampage is “ridiculous.”
“I have nothing to do with anything like that,” Miller said, suggesting that Loughner might have been under the influence of government mind control.
Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project, first mentioned Miller during an appearance Saturday on MSNBC’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann.”
“The idea weirdly enough of controlling grammar, of somehow the government using grammar to control the people is an idea that exists on the radical right. There’s a particular person, a man named David Wynn Miller who has plugged this idea for years,” Potok said.
Miller “claims to have invented truth language,” Potok said in an interview with POLITICO. “His idea is that if you only use the correct grammar and punctuation, you can throw off the shackles of the tyrannical government.”
Potok said Loughner appeared “practically illiterate and quite mentally ill,” but his statements and the books he has cited suggest a “pretty strong anti-government, conspiracy-oriented threat.”
“It seems he is getting some of his key ideas from David Wynn Miller,” he said.
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I take back every bad thought I ever had about the grammar and spelling Nazis who infest this board. Now I realize they're just patriots trying to save the country!
I don’t got no idea what this guy are getting at. I am controlled by the government because I don’t got grammar skill and stuff?
Where is the Algebra conspiracy discussion?
Conjunction junction, what’s your function?
What? You've never heard of Santa Clause?
You know this guy is whacked out because there ain’t nobody can use good grammer no more. Spellin neither.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! You can’t fool me. There ain’t no Sanity Clause!
Jesse is an idiot, but he is making money with it.
Mind Control isn’t so hard when there isn’t much mind there to control.
I briefly looked at the guy’s site, and nothing written there looks anything like what we’ve seen written by Jared.
It’s only similar in that it is unintelligible.
Of course, since Jared is alive, they could ASK HIM if he has ever heard of this David-guy.
Meanwhile, I also could find nothing on his site that would suggest that David is far-right. (Odd how the paper uses one of david’s affectations by highenating words that don’t go together). Wikipedia says “some consider him far-right”, sighting of course the reference from an article in a newspaper, probably THIS article, but some article from the last two days.
Before that he was just another nutty guy with a weird language use that doesn’t work.
I used to believe in Santa Clause, but it was just a phrase I was going through.
Isn't he an Independent???
Haven't all sorts of conspiratorial hypotheses invaded much of TV, particularly on stations like the History Channel?
One of the guys ‘shticks’ is to claim that personhood is defined by how you write your name, and you can denounce your personhood by changing how your name is written.
And once you are not a person, you no longer have to pay income tax.
Still don’t see anything that makes him “far-right”. He’s part of something called the “sovereign citizen movement”, which also doesn’t sound particularly “right” to me.
Instead, they are another batch of crazy people who think there is $630,000 in an account for each citizen, which the government is holding in a “straw man”, but that a citizen can reclaim by filling out the right government form.
They also believe that our “in-a-lien-able” right is a right associated with liens, and that your birth certificate is a deed of title against a million-dollar bond held by the “straw-man” created by the government when we are born; we can take a lien out against it through our exercise of our “in-a-lien-able” rights.
Pretty clever as a spoof, pretty crazy as a real believe; I do like that the play on words of “in a lien able”.
But calling the “redemption movement” (another name for sovereign citizens, not about salvation but about redeeming our straw man government money) a philosophy of the “right” is absurd. Other than passing reference to the gold standard, I don’t see any language that suggest this movement would support a conservative political philosophy.
Man, you start poking around Wikipedia when it comes to these left-wing descriptions of belief systems, and you find all sorts of kooky ideas that are labeled “right”; like “Christian Identity”, the “Redemption” movement, and “ZOG”, none of which meet any definition I can think of as “conservative principles”.
Wikipedia of course requires citations, but the citations are just articles which quote left-wing professors expressing their opinions. And apparently, left-wing professors believe that abolishing the federal government, or declaring oneself free from all laws, is the logical end-point of conservative thought.
Apparently, the idea of federalism is very hard to grasp for those who think the government is responsible for our lives.
Particularly if you happen to be from the government.
GOOD ONE!-lol
Between Jesse and Jared- I think there is something to this
“mind control thing”- they both did not go far enough
in their experiments:
1. Drink alchohol to you puke and passout
2. smoke pot till you hallucinate
3. start doing bad LSD trips-
Jesse is just a step away- SARc
Dr. Seuss worked for the U.S. Army during WWII...jusayin'
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