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To: Mr Rogers
This guy went beyond that. He had a record. If we can believe the sheriff he had multiple contacts with LEOs over death threats. We know his college didn't want him there unless he had a mental health evaluation and was certified as not being a danger. The school now, of course, says they didn't alert law enforcement because they didn't believe he was a danger. That seems like legalistic CYA.

Something went wrong between the school alerting the parents, and perhaps meeting with them, and the guy legally obtaining a firearm a couple months later.

In all probability he'd have found another way be it making a bomb or using a car as a weapon.

In San Diego, it's virtually impossible to obtain a CCW and a lawsuit challenging the difficulty is under appeal.

15 posted on 01/10/2011 4:46:55 AM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: newzjunkey
I don't know about there, but here in Florida most schools above high schools have their own campus police. So even if someone comes to the attention of the ‘police’ on numerous occasions it's likely the contacts will not be reported to the local LE agencies. The FBI check looks for arrests and if all the campus officer does is interview the person and write a report it would not necessarily show up on a background check.

The system is chock full of holes, some really big.

I had to wade through a lot of extra effort when I applied for my CCW permit because I had been arrested on a bad check ($5.00) 48 years ago. The warrant was issued in one county and served in another county some 200 miles away.

Had the CCW gods not been on my side and had both counties not had records nearly 50 years old I would have been denied the permit. The check charge and arrest were both in Alabama and they had copies of the original documents. They provided them for $5.00.

This guy should never have been able to access to a weapon, but denying thousands of others the right to possess and carry a weapon is not the answer. Or if it is then we're asking the wrong damnned questions!

19 posted on 01/10/2011 5:28:13 AM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: newzjunkey

He had a record, but I haven’t seen that he had a conviction anywhere.

No permit is required for carrying a gun in Arizona. If you want a permit, then Arizona shall issue you one, unless you fail to meet certain qualifications. They include:

“3. Is not under indictment for and has not been convicted in any jurisdiction of a felony unless that conviction has been expunged, set aside or vacated or the applicant’s rights have been restored and the applicant is currently not a prohibited possessor under state or federal law.

4. Does not suffer from mental illness and has not been adjudicated mentally incompetent or committed to a mental institution.”

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/03112.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS


23 posted on 01/10/2011 7:14:32 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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