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Jared Loughner's statements tied to conspiracy theory
Politico ^ | 01/09/11 | CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN

Posted on 01/09/2011 11:48:38 AM PST by Hawk720

Jared Lee Loughner’s rants about grammar and mind control track closely to the writings of a conspiracy theorist who believes that is how the government controls the populace, one leading group says – and the man tells POLITICO he agrees with some of Loughner’s statements.

The far-right activist, David Wynn Miller, said in a telephone interview that he didn’t know Loughner, but agreed with his statement in a YouTube video that “the government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.”

“Absolutely I would agree with it,” said Miller, 62, a former tool-and-die maker from Milwaukee who claims 1 billion “students” worldwide.

But he said any suggestion that his writings influenced Loughner to go on a shooting rampage is “ridiculous.”

“I have nothing to do with anything like that,” Miller said, suggesting that Loughner might have been under the influence of government mind control.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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1 posted on 01/09/2011 11:48:40 AM PST by Hawk720
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To: Hawk720

The media is circling the wagons...trying to “imply” that the killer was a right-winger! Notice how a “leaked” memo sent to the press from DHS said that he might be tied to an anti-government group!


2 posted on 01/09/2011 11:51:40 AM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Hawk720

They’re still trying to push the “far right” meme for this story I see.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 11:51:48 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Hawk720

Amazing. Amazing and pathetic.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 11:52:14 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Hawk720

So now the lefties are in the business of creating straw men. Is this stage 3? I’m losing track.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 11:53:08 AM PST by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me.)
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To: Hawk720
Can we just agree not to waste any serious intellectual energy on trying to rationalize Loughner’s obvious mental derangement?
6 posted on 01/09/2011 11:53:25 AM PST by americanophile (Deus Vult!)
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To: Hawk720
That's an interesting find ~ that the "grammar Nazis" have their own website. I'd suppose the "spelling Nazis" also have one.

Several times in the last few months during various periods of blindness and near blindness I've found myself in meaningless debates with such people ~ not just spelling nazis who were upset that I wasn't editing my stuff before posting it (which is hard to do when you're blind), and others who are really upset about how I sometimes put together sentences that start at the right end and move left rather than the other way around (which is fun to do).

So, they are real, and Jared is of their cadre.

I'd best change ISPs right!

7 posted on 01/09/2011 11:54:58 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hawk720
a former tool-and-die maker from Milwaukee who claims 1 billion“students” worldwide .

Yep....he appears to have a lot in common with Loughner.....

.....craziness.

8 posted on 01/09/2011 11:55:42 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: Menehune56

We just need to keep pushing back.


9 posted on 01/09/2011 11:59:37 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Hawk720
Potok said Loughner appeared “practically illiterate and quite mentally ill,” but his statements and the books he has cited suggest a “pretty strong anti-government, conspiracy-oriented threat.”

I don’t understand how a man who appreciates The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf being anti-government. Both are pro-big government.

You might say that the man is anti-American government.

10 posted on 01/09/2011 11:59:43 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: Bigtigermike

I LIVE in the Milwaukee area and have NEVER heard of this supposed right wing wacko. How likely is it that this insane lunatic Loughner has ever heard of this nobody?

If the elitista in Wash DC and the MSM want to know why they are losing the peoples’ trust, the way this incident is being treated is another good example.

Army Major shoots up Ft Hood and the MSM and political class rushes out to tell us not to jump to conclusions just because the Major is Muslim, and shouted ‘Allah Akbar’ before he killed our brave soldiers in cold blood.

22 Year old white guy with nice Anglo Saxon name and short hair shoots up Tucson, and MSM and elitists in DC rush to judge the guy a Palin loving, tea bagging killer motivated by Rush Limbaugh.

So predictable


11 posted on 01/09/2011 12:00:53 PM PST by milwguy
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s not grammar that the “government/MSM” is trying to control, it is the language used to describe social conditions. A recent example of this was the recent story of AP guidelines to discourage the use of terms like “illegal alien” in favor of “undocumented worker”.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 12:03:10 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Hawk720

The only people who actually believe this nut was “inspired” by Sarah Palin and/or the Tea Party are the democrat politicians, the kooks who are reporting it and their robot listeners. Nothing is being said today that hasn’t been said before. I think the majority of Americans are seeing through this hogwash. The democrat politicians’ “right wing warnings” sure didn’t work last November.

However, we still need some gop politicians who will stand up to this crap. But I don’t see them defending Sarah Palin. Romney and Mitchell and Boner and Rove and all the elitists are probably all snickering like little kids HOPING this “blame Palin” crap will stick.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 12:05:55 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Hawk720

So the question is, is he really ? or is he just f*cking nuts ? I believe he is actually a hard core anarchist.


14 posted on 01/09/2011 12:08:03 PM PST by TheRevolution1776 (Time to abolish and start over. Draw the line.)
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To: americanophile

Trouble is, liberals have no serious mental energy to waste, but they just keep talking anyway.


15 posted on 01/09/2011 12:14:26 PM PST by Hunton Peck ("Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence! We're liberals!")
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To: Bigtigermike

So what makes this new idiot a ‘right winger’? Just because the media says he is? Sounds like more hogwash to me.


16 posted on 01/09/2011 12:19:36 PM PST by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Bigtigermike

So what makes this new idiot a ‘right winger’? Just because the media says he is? Sounds like more hogwash to me.


17 posted on 01/09/2011 12:19:40 PM PST by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Bigtigermike

This guy also seems to have used the nickname “erad3”

same writtings as in the video...


Erad3
If Christianity philosophy is non-fiction writing then there’s a author for the literature

There’s no author for the literature.

Therefore, Christianity philosophy is not non-fiction writing.

Crap on anyone who is believing Christianity without evidence of a writer!


Google away!


18 posted on 01/09/2011 12:23:49 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Hawk720

All of these seems surreal to me and I don’t know what to believe. Either their is some wacko group of anarchists that are preaching this crap or lefty activists trying to ruin the tea party in the public eye by claiming they are right wing nutjobs. I am not going to put out any conspiracy theories, but I do believe that he is either an anarchist or a leftwing activist.


19 posted on 01/09/2011 12:25:23 PM PST by paman12
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To: Hawk720

Go to Yahoo News:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110109/ts_yblog_theticket/in-the-aftermath-of-the-giffords-shooting-a-debate-over-heated-political-rhetoric#mwpphu-container

And you will see how the liberals are trying to spin this.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 12:31:32 PM PST by cruise_missile
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