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To: hershey
"Then they return to India, happy that their child will be a US citizen, etc.. With all that implies. This is a growing world wide phenomenon, and we’d better put a stop to it."

I think this is a different situation from those here illegally. LEGAL visitors ARE "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States". If they drop the kid during the LEGAL visit, then current law applies. NO illegal immigrant, simply by virtue of their "non-documented" status is "subject to the jurisdiction of...".

I agree that the practice should be terminated, but I don't think you can equate the two situations.

66 posted on 01/07/2011 4:26:56 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog; Carry_Okie
I think this is a different situation from those here illegally.
LEGAL visitors ARE "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States".
If they drop the kid during the LEGAL visit, then current law applies.

Just being in the country does not make one "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States."
At least not by the definitions used when the Constitution was written or by its intent.

The 14th Amendment has been terribly misinterpreted as has been written about at length. Here are some links Carry_Okie posted the other day where he has encapsulated the issues.

"Birthright Citizenship": A Fraud on the Constitution

Kelo & the 14th Amendment: Exploring a Constitutional Koan


82 posted on 01/07/2011 11:09:08 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life" --Lindzen)
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To: Wonder Warthog

NO WAY. VISITORS here retain their allegiance to their homelands and so are NOT “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States, which is what that phrase means. The discussion surrounding the adoption of this covered that very topic, IIRC!


103 posted on 01/07/2011 7:36:56 PM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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