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Suspects Shot in Attempted Grocery Store Robbery (Store Owner plugs 2 youts with .357 mag)
KATV.com ^ | 06 JAN 11 | By Rusty Mizell

Posted on 01/06/2011 7:58:27 AM PST by DCBryan1

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To: DCBryan1
A friend of mine was involved in a shooting a few years ago. Both the good guy and the perp were armed with S&W 686, 7 shot models.

Both were firing .357 magnum rounds. My buddy took one in the elbow which traveled up his arm, exiting near his shoulder, rupturing his brachial artery. My friend survived but lost a hell of a lot of blood.

Mr. Bad Guy took 4 rounds, one of which severed his spinal cord. Both shooters emptied their weapons in less than 3.5 seconds according to the surveillance cam video.

Mr. Bad Guy did the world a favor and put his final round into his own head.

The first round was fired at less than 9 feet, the final shots at less than 3, measured distances supported by above video.

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81 posted on 01/07/2011 8:47:58 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker; DCBryan1
great news update...hopefully, mr critical will expire...

L, yer bud is a lucky man...sometimes the good guys win...

82 posted on 01/07/2011 9:02:33 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: chadwimc

Short barreled revolvers, like the immensely popular SW 642, don’t benefit from the .357 cartridge. You get flame, but not the velocity increase. Virtually everybody opts for the .38SPL version. However, for the 1/8” additional length, it’s still worth it to be able to use .357 ammo on a pinch.


83 posted on 01/07/2011 9:12:36 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I was one of the very first in the US to use and RELOAD the 357SIG and I finally ditched it a few years back. The cartridge design doesn’t allow for a proper neck, so bullets experience setback during chambering. I had a factory Federal round fall back into the case and detonate the grips and extractor on my SIG P229 back in 1994. I don’t think ammo manufacturers were ever able to properly solve the problem. That, and it was a pain in the ass to resize and reload.

Stick with 9mm, .40SW and .45ACP and you’ll be fine.


84 posted on 01/07/2011 9:16:23 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: DCBryan1

LMAO .....Sweet !


85 posted on 01/07/2011 10:37:06 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Iron Munro; dcbryan

I pack this as my CHL rig......:o)

http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/sneakpreview.shtml

Loaded with their CHP 185gr Copper Hollow points.

I also have their 1911A1 Model 1 version in 50GI yet like the combat tupperware for EDC. Comfy and simple.

Stay Safe ya’ll !


86 posted on 01/07/2011 10:45:46 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Above post was for you...messed up yer moniker !....my bad.


87 posted on 01/07/2011 10:49:56 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I recall looking at a .357 Sig at a gun shop and thinking it was an odd little number. I couldn’t figure out the attraction of this new round, unlike the .40 S&W which has been very successful.


88 posted on 01/07/2011 2:24:26 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You can definitely tell the difference when firing the 357SIG. Out of my P229, it was pushing around 1300+ with 124gr Speer Gold Dots, IIRC. Loud and the recoil was very punchy. It would ring the hell out of a 50lb metal plate I had swinging from chains. Not very good for double taps, but it had penetration in spades.

Still, it was a pain to reload and the factory rounds were just as problematic with bullet setback. After a year, I installed a Bar-Sto .40SW barrel and swapped that out for carry. Finally sold the whole package to fund my Glock 19 and never looked back. The Glock is just the better carry platform - lighter, thinner, more compact. I never got any of the anti-9mm nonsense because the one-shot-stop percentages aren’t that different from .40SW or even .45ACP.


89 posted on 01/08/2011 9:31:47 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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