Suspects Shot in Attempted Grocery Store Robbery (Store Owner plugs 2 youts with .357 mag)

KATV.com ^ | 06 JAN 11 | By Rusty Mizell

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

.357 beats a .45 any day for range.

I’ve owned several of both.

.357 6” barrel is good for a 50 yard shots all day long. You can’t say that with a .45. You’d have to aim a foot high.

[Lurker]

So I’m buying this gun for 2 people, not just one. Any thoughts?

Get the revolver. It's much simpler to operate and packs more than enough power to take a goblin down.

Find a good quality (S&W, Colt, Taurs) used one chambered in .357 magnum.

[Graybeard58]

I used to own a .357. Haven’t owned a gun for awhile.

I own a .357 that I bought 5 or 6 years ago and its never been fired. It's not for sale though. 7 shot and I like the heft of it.

[rex regnum insanit]

Heh! Eight ball in the corner pocket!

[Lurker]

it appears that the store owner got him somewhere below the waist.

A possible two-fer. Excellent.

[Oberon]

.45 ACP is a handgun and carbine cartridge that dates back to the beginnings of the 20th century. It has a head diameter of .475, a case length of 0.9 inches, and a bullet diameter of .452 (nearly half an inch). The military spec bullet weight is 230 grains, but commercial loadings and handload recipes can be found with bullet weights ranging from 175 to 250 grains.

The .45 ACP does well with either jacketed or cast bullets. SAAMI spec pressure is 18,000 psi, and typical velocities from a full-sized (1911A1 or equivalent) pistol are around 800 fps.

Although the .45 ACP cartridge was developed with semi-automatic weapons in mind, and has been used in full-auto applications (most notably the Thompson submachine gun), it has also been adapted for use in revolvers. Circular "moon clips" are commonly used for .45 ACP in revolver applications because the .45 ACP case is rimless, having an extractor notch in lieu of a rim. The use of .45 ACP in revolvers dates to WWI, when gun makers supplying materiel for the war in Europe found that they could turn out many more revolvers faster and less expensively than the Colt 1911. Hence the S&W and Colt models 1917 were born.

Curiously, the .45 ACP shares its head dimensions with the .30-06 family of rifle cartridges. This is because when the cartridge was first proposed for military trials, the sample cases that gun manufacturers were given were in fact .30-06 cases, sawed off to an inch in length.

In military trim the .45 ACP is known to be highly effective. Premium anti-personnel loadings are available for civilian use, notably the Federal Hydra-Shock ammunition with 185-grain jacketed hollow-point bullets.

Above: Mil-spec .45 ACP cartridge with jacketed "ball" bullet.

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Would you trade a Colt Python for sex with Angelina Jole???

[blau993]

As somebody who owns and shoots both a .357 Magnum and a .45 Semi-auto, I can tell you the .357 is plenty of gun. You will seriously notice being hit by a .357 round.

[Las Vegas Ron]

It’s been awhile and I forget the arguments pro and con between those two weapons.

Here's a good synopsis, about a third of the way down the page under: Best Caliber Handgun for Self-Defense

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[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Put the .357 vs. .45 to the Paint Can test with hollow points.

What splatters the most. .357 hands down.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I have a 6” blue Python in 95 + condition. Since this gun has become so desirable as a collector, I've cleaned it up and stored it in my safe. No need to shoot this beauty when I have other bangers...

[Oberon]

K-frames FTW!

[Lancey Howard]

That’s good work. I think you’re right.

[IMR 4350]

If you haven't owned a gun for awhile, I'd advise you to stick with the revolver.

I'm no fan of the .357mag myself, but it is an excellent choice as you can also use .38 specials in it.

[deport]

it appears that the store owner got him somewhere below the waist.

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You’d be correct according to the article posted:

....Police were called to Joe’s Grocery Store at 12223 Colonel Glenn Road just before 10 a.m. on Wednesday. Two men who were attempting to rob the store were shot in the chest and in the leg by the clerk and owner of the business.....

[chadwimc]

If you buy a revolver in .357, you and your bride can practice with .38 caliber loads. Revolvers are “point and click”. Keep the gun loaded with full power .357 for “social work”. In a stressful situation, you will never notice recoil anyhow.

Remember. “Officer, I was so scared, I thought I was gonna die. I need to talk to a lawyer”...

[paulcissa]

"Would you trade a Colt Python for sex with Angelina Jole???

Not a chance.

[USS Alaska]

The firearm above your last post is one of the finest home defense/personal defense weapons ever made. I love wheel guns, and I can use both .38 spl and .357 mag.

Me too, and with a couple of speed loaders, I never feel that I'd be better off with a semi-auto.

The revolver never jams, rarely misfires, and for me, is the best self protection I can easily carry {or keep in my bed stand}.

I've owned semi-autos before, sold them and won't go back, but it is a matter of personal preference.

[mongo141]

“Would you trade a Colt Python for sex with Angelina Jole???”

Not a chance! I have an almost mint Python 4” that I carry on occasion, combat grips in a IWB holster, Powerball loads.

[USS Alaska]

Please look carefully at picture above. Look at suspects feet. Notice his pants and underwear around his ankles. Note blood in underwear. Notice suspects face? Looks like cockshot to me... .Tough guys never think about their d!ck getting blown off by a 357 before they walk in. Oh well, took care of the pro creation problem.

Great catch, I missed that. Oh boy, that gotta hurt.

There are some things worse than death.

Castration by 357, oh yeah.