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How 100,000 Britons have chosen to become Muslim... and average convert is 27-year-old white woman
Daily Mail ^ | 1/5/11 | Jack Doyle

Posted on 01/05/2011 12:38:24 PM PST by Nachum

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To: tacticalogic
The thread article shows that Western women are abandoning Western men in favor of Muslim men. My argument is that this movement was caused by Western man embracing feminism since:
  1. Muslim men are are less feminist.
  2. Our great grandfathers were also less feminist and did not have this problem.
  3. Christianity teaches that wives submitting to husbands is God's plan.
  4. My personal-life observations and experience with girlfriends, wife, and daughters indicate that females respect self-confident, controlling men over egalitarians.
You disagree? Why?
121 posted on 01/06/2011 2:40:27 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

I disagree with your assesment that conservative men are all femininsts because Rush Limbaugh had Elton John sing at his wedding.


122 posted on 01/06/2011 2:48:01 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Now you are really bending the truth. Where did I make that assessment?


123 posted on 01/06/2011 2:57:49 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

That wasn’t the intended implication in post 114?


124 posted on 01/06/2011 2:59:57 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Do you dispute anything I explicitly wrote in post 114?


125 posted on 01/06/2011 3:56:20 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

I dispute the value of continuing a converstion with somebody who uses those tactics.


126 posted on 01/06/2011 5:06:08 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Believe me, I HAVE NEVER ONCE LOST ANY RESPECT from any man whom I had bested in anything!

As a matter of fact, MORE RESPECT has been given to me! :)=^..^=


127 posted on 01/07/2011 3:19:15 AM PST by Biggirl (HAPPY 2011!:)=^..^=)
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To: tacticalogic

AMEN, I second it. Post number 127 is my last posting.


128 posted on 01/07/2011 3:20:18 AM PST by Biggirl (HAPPY 2011!:)=^..^=)
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To: tacticalogic

To me, using these tatics shows some weak thinking on the one who thinks women need controlling men.


129 posted on 01/07/2011 3:26:45 AM PST by Biggirl (HAPPY 2011!:)=^..^=)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

So how often do you beat your wife, on the average?


130 posted on 01/07/2011 6:32:54 AM PST by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor
Perhaps a Cary Grant facepalm is better than a beating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpwJrEQY17U

131 posted on 01/07/2011 8:10:59 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Biggirl
I HAVE NEVER ONCE LOST ANY RESPECT from any man

The problem is men loosing respect from women.

132 posted on 01/07/2011 8:13:42 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Biggirl
using these tatics shows some weak thinking on the one who thinks women need controlling men.

It does not matter what PC men think. All women secretly yearn for a domineering man. That is the way women are built. Muslims know that. Our great grandfathers knew that. Why don't we just admit it?

133 posted on 01/07/2011 8:17:56 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Your opinion, not mine, and frankly, IT IS A SIGN GREAT WEAKNESS on the part of the males who do want to dominate women and such, I WANT NO PART of.

Rather, the men I do RESPECT are those who treat me the way they WANT to be TREATED in the same way themselves, in other words, the golden rule in practice.

In other words, love, respect, and honor go both ways and is to be given to each other in the male and female relationships. Our great-grandfathers were GENTLEMEN to begin with, and would in truth support my position.

In the Muslim world, have you not heard of what is called “honor killing?”

I have male friends who would be very offended by what you have said, they have treated me very well and are REAL men btw.

This debate is over as of now has now ended.


134 posted on 01/07/2011 10:15:37 AM PST by Biggirl (HAPPY 2011!:)=^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
Rather, the men I do RESPECT are those who treat me the way they WANT to be TREATED in the same way themselves, in other words, the golden rule in practice.

Why do 100,000 English women in their prime marriage years prefer non-feminist Muslims? Women initiate the vast majority of divorces in the West. The women leave on trifling excuses because they are sexually turned off by husbands too weak to take charge. The golden rule does not require parents treat children as equals. Nor does it require that husbands treat their wives as equals. Relations between friend operate on a different dynamic.

Our great-grandfathers were GENTLEMEN to begin with, and would in truth support my position.

Our great-grandfathers were male chauvinist pigs according to feminists. They denied women the "rights" to fight in wars, hang out in bars, and live in co-ed dorms. They encouraged their wives to stay at home and prevented their daughters from meeting unapproved suitors.

I have male friends who would be very offended by what you have said

Most modern Western men are practical feminists with whom our great-grandfathers would be offended.

135 posted on 01/07/2011 3:48:03 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: N3WBI3
Something was needed to fill the vacuum after Christianity.

Many of these young people have grown up hearing how vile a religion Christianity was and how wonderful Islam was.... what did you expect?

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

136 posted on 01/07/2011 10:59:23 PM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: DesertRhino

Let us all teach our children (and grandchildren) to be strong, moral people. As a grandmother, I have been thinking about this quite a bit looking for opportunities to make a comment, give an uplifting book or any activity that shows my grandkids that they are loved and have a purpose in life and that there are bounderies in life. Thank G-d that I was raised by some old fashioned parents. My husband and I both came from old fashioned families. I think the kids that come from these traditional families are the luckiest kids.

If you had the misfortune to be raised by wishy-washy or liberal parents turn your sights to anything that has old fashioned homey wisdom whether some person you know or of course the Bible.


137 posted on 01/11/2011 7:05:43 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: DesertRhino

Let us all teach our children (and grandchildren) to be strong, moral people. As a grandmother, I have been thinking about this quite a bit looking for opportunities to make a comment, give an uplifting book or any activity that shows my grandkids that they are loved and have a purpose in life and that there are bounderies in life. Thank G-d that I was raised by some old fashioned parents. My husband and I both came from old fashioned families. I think the kids that come from these traditional families are the luckiest kids.

If you had the misfortune to be raised by wishy-washy or liberal parents turn your sights to anything that has old fashioned homey wisdom whether some person you know or of course the Bible.


138 posted on 01/11/2011 7:06:15 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: DesertRhino

Let us all teach our children (and grandchildren) to be strong, moral people. As a grandmother, I have been thinking about this quite a bit looking for opportunities to make a comment, give an uplifting book or any activity that shows my grandkids that they are loved and have a purpose in life and that there are bounderies in life. Thank G-d that I was raised by some old fashioned parents. My husband and I both came from old fashioned families. I think the kids that come from these traditional families are the luckiest kids.

If you had the misfortune to be raised by wishy-washy or liberal parents turn your sights to anything that has old fashioned homey wisdom whether some person you know or of course the Bible.


139 posted on 01/11/2011 7:06:31 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: rmlew

Anglican Church is the picture of “wimpy-wimpy-wimpy” modern faux Christianity.


140 posted on 01/11/2011 7:18:21 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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