Posted on 01/05/2011 10:17:20 AM PST by Kaslin
Yet he never became an alcoholic, although his son Charles died of alcoholism.
An alcoholic will find his particular poison whether conveniently located or not.
No convenience does not have anything to do with abuse - which is why you see people completely ruin their lives to obtain crack or heroin - it isn’t easy to get, yet they will steal, rob or sell their own bodies to service their addictions. Casual drinkers will buy when they feel they want something - not break the law to get to any substance.
Really, you can buy a six pack now? When we lived in PA you could go into a local pub and buy a six from them, but had to buy a case at the beer store. I hated that because I sometimes wanted to try something different but didn’t want to be stuck with 23 if I didn’t like it.
You can buy a 6 or 12 pack from any restaurant/bar that has a license. You still can only buy cases at a distributor and not 6.
The trick they are doing now with some supermarkets, as I described, is to legally classify part of the store as a restaurant/bar.
The vested interests, as you imagine, are not happy about competing with a supermarket. They went so far as to get one judge to rule that these supermarket cafes, since their license ALLOWS consumption on the premises MUST allow consumption on the premises.
That's exactly what I'm asking. With all the problems going on out there (the gay agenda destroying American institutions, abortion, militant Islam, out of control government spending, the sell out of American sovereignty through supposed "free trade agreements", etc. etc.), why are people wasting their time on issues involving the sale of alcohol?
After all, if you stand next to a woman, she is conveniently near you. Does that mean you will be more or less inclined to abuse her? Oh - that’s right... Abuse isn’t caused by proximity.
Someone needs to work on his analogies. Trying to compare the abuse of alcohol (an inanimate object) with the sexual abuse of a human being? Wait, you might have something there, as those that are drunk are more apt to commit acts of violence.
Link to Alcohol and violence
Gas stations, too - IIRC, Sheetz' headquarters location in Altoona tried to justify selling 6 packs the same way that Wegmans and other supermarkets are doing. The successful application of the law you mentioned, on-premises consumption, caused them to scrap their plans to sell beer at their gas stations chain-wide in PA.
However, Wegmans did just win the case in the PA Supreme Court that said what they were doing (restaurants selling beer) was legal.
You're confusing personal salvation with what God ordained the civil magistrate for:
Romans 13:3-4 (New International Version, ©2010)
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
You'd be right: FreeTheGrapes.org.
An alcoholic will find his particular poison whether conveniently located or not.
Comparing a time when our nation was primarily of Christian faith to a time when we of secular/atheist actions?
You seem to think that the majority of violence (by drug addicts) is from their attempt to get drugs? The experts (those that deal with drug addicts and are not affilitated with the Libertarian Party), say it's those that are high on drugs that are the ones responsible for most of the violence.
Link to Crime Violence, and Drug use go hand in hand
I would imagine that Nevada has the loosest liquor control laws in our nation; I wonder what the alcoholism rate there is?
Reno, Nevada has the highest rate of alcoholism in the United States while Provo, Utah, the lowest.
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That’s messed up.
Although I just tried to set up a shipment from the gold medal wine club to PA and I wasn’t prevented....
I'm really stunned that you think addicts only become addicts because something is easily available. You sound like a liberal who blames others for a situation.
Sheetz had to build a brick wall to separate their “gasoline” business from their “beer” business. Because we all know the Commonwealth would be harmed if beer and petroleum products were dispensed from the same establishment.
Then that judge’s ruling shut them down since they only wanted to sell beer to go.
Nanny-staters for social issues are hypocrites. Claiming those that disagree with you are libertarians is a red herring thrown out to hide your lack of Conservatism.
I never used the word "only". However, if something is harder to obtain (and I'm not implying that alcohol should be made illegal), or if the risk is too great to even start using the substance (such as stiff laws against recreational drug possession and use) how does one become addicted if it's not easily accessible in the first place?
People that use the term "nanny staters" are always members of the "if it feels good do it" Libertarian Party.
Since we're on the topic of conservative values and the detestable behavior known as homosexuality, I'll use a quote made by Bryan Fischer in a renewamerica.com article:
"They [homosexuals] can't call themselves conservatives, for the simple reason that using the anal cavity for sex is not a conservative value."
Oops! Wrong thread.
Again, you are blaming the availablity instead of the user. And again I will say, an addict, or one who has an addictive tendency is going to find their drug or choice, no matter how tough or easy it is.
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