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Borders “never” can be secured..and so hence..

Probably not entirely, but I would much prefer a very slow trickle of illegals to the uncontrolled flood that we have today. Closing the borders is THE first step. Second step is enforcing or improving current laws as Arizona did, targeting specifically the employment of illegals. Third step, eliminate Sanctuary Cities. Fourth step, in my view, is a path to citizenship, but along with this, you speed up the process considerably for those who are currently in line legally.

And when I say a path to citizenship, you make the requirements pretty rugged and then you ENFORCE them. Some items of the last debate I did like. For instance:

- You have three months to declare yourself here illegally to begin the process. If you are caught after those three months, you and your family are immediately deported.

- You must pay a fine or work off the fine to begin the process.

- You must apply for a SPECIAL SS number and those numbers will not receive a dime until you are declared a legal citizen.

- You will be on a probationary period for three years. If you are convicted of a misdemeanor or worse within that 3 year period, you and your family are immediately deported.