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Political establishment does not understand tea party movement
San Francisco Examiner ^ | December 29, 2010 | Mark Tapscott

Posted on 01/02/2011 10:46:36 AM PST by Navy Patriot

You would think the smartest guys in the room of American politics would have figured out the tea party by now.

But you would be wrong. Abundant proof was just provided on the opinion pages of The New York Times in an indignant editorial entitled “The Repeal Amendment.”

The Repeal Amendment is a proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to enable the legislatures of two-thirds of the states to repeal a federal law they find objectionable. It comes as a surprise to no sentient being who has witnessed the grass-roots rebellion, aka the tea party, against expanding federal power.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: party; tea
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Interesting in his dismissal of the Slimes. There is some reality based opinion coming back to newsprint.
1 posted on 01/02/2011 10:46:38 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

King George didn’t understand the American Colonists either. It happens from time to time. That’s how the tree gets watered.


2 posted on 01/02/2011 10:50:49 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Navy Patriot

I believe the NYT understands the Tea Party all too well and it scares them to death.


3 posted on 01/02/2011 10:50:58 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Navy Patriot

lol who knew?


4 posted on 01/02/2011 10:51:47 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Graybeard58

The new House would be wise to remember the Tea Party Movement that swept them into office. It can sweep them out as well should they turn into and become the arrogant Elitists that are spawned in DC Sewers.


5 posted on 01/02/2011 10:52:53 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Navy Patriot
You would think the smartest guys in the room of American politics would have figured out the tea party by now.

They have. Unfortunately, none of them hold political office.

6 posted on 01/02/2011 11:01:41 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (..there is nothing in the world so irresistibly contagious as laughter and good-humour.)
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To: Republic of Texas

That’s how the tree gets watered.

Tea Tree Oil.


7 posted on 01/02/2011 11:03:12 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Navy Patriot
I am warming up quite nicely to the “Repeal Amendment” concept.

Some of my pondering points are whether to only allow the total repeal of a particular law; or allow the repeal of various sections or parts therein.

Also, whether to allow repeal of two or three statutes and various sections therein under a single “repeal” action similar to an omnibus bill or Christmas tree bill.

Further, should the “repeal” action be limited to “germane” law, or to be wide open for any combination of various bill on various topics.

If wide open, that would create political wheeling/dealing between the states which is a double-edged sword.

Just thinking ... but the Repeal Amendment has mountains of upside on the freedom/liberty scale.

8 posted on 01/02/2011 11:07:24 AM PST by taxcutisapayraise (Making Statism Unpopular)
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To: Navy Patriot; upchuck

UNCLEAR ON THE CONCEPT


9 posted on 01/02/2011 11:08:29 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Navy Patriot
"You would think the smartest guys in the room of American politics would have figured out the tea party by now.

I'm sure it's a simple a matter of Perspective. For example, here is my . . .

Definition of U.S. 'Federal Government':

[fed-er-uh l] [guhv-ern-muh nt, ‐er-muh nt] Noun:

Of, relating to, or being an entity that demands absolute power and control over the ruled. Collection of Laws, Rules, Regulations, Fines, Fees, Penalties, Taxes, Taxes . . and more Taxes. Usually divided into 3 often times overlapping areas of responsibility.

Legislative & Investigatory Branch: Tyrants, Liars, and Thieves responsible for creating (in the dead of night behind closed doors) above mentioned laws, rules, regulations, etc.

Executive Branch: A collection of thousands of Departments, Agencies, and Government Organizations administered by Bureaucratic Despots charged with the selective enforcement of above mentioned laws, rules, regulations, etc.

Judicial Branch: Activist Jurists tasked with the responsibility for justifying the constitutionality of blatantly unconstitutional laws, rules, regulations, etc. Must be Ivy League educated and brilliant enough to read "Penumbra" (The gift for clearly seeing things in the U.S. Constitution that do not exist.)

Still Think You're Free?

10 posted on 01/02/2011 11:15:06 AM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Still Think You're Free?)
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To: Navy Patriot
The Repeal Amendment is a proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to enable the legislatures of two-thirds of the states to repeal a federal law they find objectionable.

This is a major constitutional change, as currently it takes three-quarters of state legislatures to amend the Constitution. Not sure if I like this one.

11 posted on 01/02/2011 11:15:14 AM PST by dirtboy
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Well if they understood us, they wouldn't be fighting against us.....now would they. What we have here is a failure to communicate.

They want us to bow down and obey their rule "or else" and we plan to stink up the room until they "listen to reason" and/or make an undignified exit in 2012. Let's get to talkin'

12 posted on 01/02/2011 11:19:33 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: dirtboy
Not sure if I like this one.

I'm not sure why. Can you lay it out for me? They're not talking about making it easier to amend the Constitution, merely provide a framework for the States to force repeal or overreaching legislation.

13 posted on 01/02/2011 11:21:56 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: taxcutisapayraise

“I am warming up quite nicely to the “Repeal Amendment” concept.”

I like it as well. It restores some federalism. It is hard to argue that a law that two thirds of the States reject should be kept on the books.


14 posted on 01/02/2011 11:24:43 AM PST by marktwain
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To: dirtboy

Well, it is an alternative and even more radical action now in the Constitution. The same number could compel the calling of a convention of the states to consider an amendment.


15 posted on 01/02/2011 11:27:34 AM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

This is one of those things for which merely the “threat” and the fear of it actually happening may be important.


16 posted on 01/02/2011 11:30:16 AM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: RobbyS

This is one of those things for which merely the “threat” and the fear of it actually happening may be important.


17 posted on 01/02/2011 11:30:27 AM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: taxcutisapayraise; dirtboy; All
The best worded version of this amendment was something like this:

Upon the identically worded resolutions of the legislatures of three quarters of the states, any law or regulation of the United States, identified with specificity, is thereby rescinded.
So, it would allow for the states to pass resolutions like, "Public Law 63-43 is hereby rescinded," or "United States Code, title __, chapter ___ Section ____ is hereby rescinded," or even "Code of Federal Regulations, ... is hereby rescinded."

This does take the US Congress and the President out of the loop, but the requirement is very high (legislatures of 3/4ths of the states), similar to the requirement for state legislatures to amend the United States Constitution.

Overall, I like it, and it's one of several amendments I would like my state legislature to pass resolutions in favor of in an attempt to move them forward.

18 posted on 01/02/2011 11:31:03 AM PST by cc2k
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To: dirtboy

Messing with the language of the Constitution is like messing with the equipment in a 765 kV substation.

I don’t even want to take the padlock off the gate.


19 posted on 01/02/2011 11:33:08 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Navy Patriot
Yeah,I have heard the Libs,RINOs and the MSM say the Tea Party folks want everything from cooperation with Obama to the rejection of the conservative agenda.

Talk about the six blind men trying to describe the elephant.

It will take one more landslide to teach them.The last one was just the 2x4 upside their head to get their attention.

20 posted on 01/02/2011 11:37:48 AM PST by Happy Rain
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