[PapaBear3625]

Both SS and Medicare will have to be "means tested", increased eligibility age AND benefits frozen at inflation minus x percent to have any chance of bringing the deficit under control without raising taxes. And yes, it's an approach I support.

Before that happens, I would support gutting ALL public employee pensions to SS levels, and cutting the federal government to not much more than Dept of Defense and State Dept. Eliminate Dept of Education, HEW, EEOC, ALL federal support for welfare of any kind, and THEN we can talk about cutting SS benefits for people who've paid in for all their lives.

The ENTIRETY of the Welfare State should be utterly eliminate, not just "managed".

That's the approach I support.

[Mariner]

"That's the approach I support. "

Me too. But we have to start somewhere. The two biggies are SS and Medicare. If we cannot even reduce those programs, how do we ever expect to be able to bring the Federal Government to heel?

[skeeter]

and THEN we can talk about cutting SS benefits for people who've paid in for all their lives.

And when we get around to cutting those benefits we cut them for everyone in proportion equal to their contributions.

We need to get away from this class warfare BS thats killing enterprise in this country.