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To: drbuzzard
You don’t actually have any claim on that nonexistent money.

Now that is just total BS. Unless and until the law is changed, we DO have a valid claim.

Tell you what you do. You lobby your congresscritter and I'll lobby mine. We'll see how it comes out.

569 posted on 01/03/2011 8:32:21 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

>Now that is just total BS. Unless and until the law is changed, we DO have a valid claim.

Actually your claim amounts to exactly as much as Congress decides you get, no more and no less. That can be zero if they say so. That is how the law works.

>Tell you what you do. You lobby your congresscritter and I’ll lobby mine. We’ll see how it comes out.

Yes, I’m sure you can find a bunch of people who are happy to keep heading right for that iceberg. Heck the band is still playing, so why not?


577 posted on 01/03/2011 8:47:26 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: abb
Now that is just total BS. Unless and until the law is changed, we DO have a valid claim. Tell you what you do. You lobby your congresscritter and I'll lobby mine. We'll see how it comes out.

And that is the futility of this argument. There are many out there like you who think that there is some magic that will resolve this problem where you are spared from any sacrifice/pain. The day is rapidly approaching where there will not be any investors willing to buy US securities.

And when US securities are rated as junk and the market imposes the ultimate solution (benefits simply cutoff as there are no funds), you will be the loudest critic of how the government could be so fiscally reckless.

580 posted on 01/03/2011 8:50:23 AM PST by al_again2010
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To: abb; drbuzzard
abb: Do a search for Flemming v. Nestor.

I'll quote the Wikipedia summary if you are busy.

The Court ruled that no such contract exists, and that there is no contractual right to receive Social Security payments. Payments due under Social Security are not “property” rights and are not protected by the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment. The interest of a beneficiary of Social Security is protected only by the Due Process Clause.

Freeper abb, you are still in the "denial" phase of entitlements grief. The next phase is "anger".

583 posted on 01/03/2011 8:53:31 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Imagine the parade to celebrate victory in the WoT. What security measures would we need??)
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To: abb

RE: “Now that is just total BS. Unless and until the law is changed, we DO have a valid claim.

Tell you what you do. You lobby your congresscritter and I’ll lobby mine. We’ll see how it comes out.”

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Good post! We DO still have a ‘valid claim!’


654 posted on 01/03/2011 10:32:18 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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