[wagglebee]

Denials have been in force in the private insurance sector for years. There are "lifetime benefit limits" and once you exceed them you are on your own dime. And insurance companies have denied transplants and other high cost procedures which in their estimation have a minimal success rate.

I don't recall that any Freepers have ever called that "free market euthanasia" nor referred to the private insurance companies as "profit making death panels".

However, under Obamacare and the like a person would not be allowed to pay for the care themselves and this WOULD be a death panel.

Regardless, I am also referring to those FReepers who have supported Nazi-style involuntary euthanasia.

[Notary Sojac]

If Medicare were tomorrow to determine that liver transplants for those over 80 will be a non-covered service, then by law there is nothing to prevent any Medicare recipient from paying for it himself, nor would it prevent the hospital/physician from paying for it. I trust you agree that this would not be a "death panel" decision.

I agree that in all cases the patient should have the option of paying for what the government program does not cover.

And I believe that the Medicare and Medicaid programs should evolve this way in future, with the exotic procedures and multi-month ICU stays on the patient's nickel.

By the way, why are you pinging a whole list of Freepers to post after post here??