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To: abb
"Only AFTER government retireds have to undergo such a haircut program first"

That should occur too.

282 posted on 01/02/2011 3:02:02 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

They go first. After that is completed, then we’ll talk about SS.

End of negotiation.


284 posted on 01/02/2011 3:02:53 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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This is what we have to work with folks.

We need $1.2trillion reduction for balance.

SS and Medicare add up to about $1.2trillion and are on a trajectory to reach $2trillion by the end of this decade.

Yes, HUD and DOE are easy targets as are many other "discretionary programs" (like defense is discretionary lol).

Medicaid? Yeah, I think so. That's Medical care for the "poor" and can be, should be, a state endeavor.

297 posted on 01/02/2011 3:14:02 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner
This is what we have to work with folks.

We need $1.2trillion reduction for balance.

SS and Medicare add up to about $1.2trillion and are on a trajectory to reach $2trillion by the end of this decade.

Yes, HUD and DOE are easy targets as are many other "discretionary programs" (like defense is discretionary lol).

Medicaid? Yeah, I think so. That's Medical care for the "poor" and can be, should be, a state endeavor.

Further information: Government spending The President's budget for 2010 totals $3.55 trillion. Percentages in parentheses indicate percentage change compared to 2009. This budget request is broken down by the following expenditures: * Mandatory spending: $2.184 trillion (+15.6%) o $677.95 billion (+4.9%) – Social Security o $571 billion (−15.2%) – Other mandatory programs o $453 billion (+6.6%) – Medicare o $290 billion (+12.0%) – Medicaid o $164 billion (+18.0%) – Interest on National Debt o $11 billion (+275%) – Potential disaster costs o $0 billion (−100%) – Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) o $0 billion (−100%) – Financial stabilization efforts US receipt and expenditure estimates for fiscal year 2010. * Discretionary spending: $1.368 trillion (+13.1%) o $663.7 billion (+12.7%) – Department of Defense (including Overseas Contingency Operations) o $78.7 billion (−1.7%) – Department of Health and Human Services o $72.5 billion (+2.8%) – Department of Transportation o $52.5 billion (+10.3%) – Department of Veterans Affairs o $51.7 billion (+40.9%) – Department of State and Other International Programs o $47.5 billion (+18.5%) – Department of Housing and Urban Development o $46.7 billion (+12.8%) – Department of Education o $42.7 billion (+1.2%) – Department of Homeland Security o $26.3 billion (−0.4%) – Department of Energy o $26.0 billion (+8.8%) – Department of Agriculture o $23.9 billion (−6.3%) – Department of Justice o $18.7 billion (+5.1%) – National Aeronautics and Space Administration o $13.8 billion (+48.4%) – Department of Commerce o $13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of Labor o $13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of the Treasury o $12.0 billion (+6.2%) – Department of the Interior o $10.5 billion (+34.6%) – Environmental Protection Agency o $9.7 billion (+10.2%) – Social Security Administration o $7.0 billion (+1.4%) – National Science Foundation o $5.1 billion (−3.8%) – Corps of Engineers o $5.0 billion (+100%) – National Infrastructure Bank o $1.1 billion (+22.2%) – Corporation for National and Community Service o $0.7 billion (0.0%) – Small Business Administration o $0.6 billion (−14.3%) – General Services Administration o $19.8 billion (+3.7%) – Other Agencies o $105 billion – Other

299 posted on 01/02/2011 3:16:00 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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