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To: dragnet2

I apologize: I am not willing to sign up or sign in to prove I am over 18, so I can’t see the video.
I shall amend my statement a bit. If I perceive that someone is about to swing a club... The only issue for a jury is whether my split second response was “reasonable.” As you have seen the video, I may have to defer to your judgment.
If the officer had any way to articulate a reasonable fear of assault, it all follows. Again, the ultimate fault for this lies with the decision to enter this way - it is bound to set up “miscommunication” or hasty and deadly decision making.

These things just should not be done unless life is already on the line. Evidence is not worth it, IMHO. If you think someone will flush it, drop something in the clean out valve, or better yet, get them some other way, leaving yourself free to gather evidence at your leisure. Can’t get it after all. Too bad, try harder next time, life is of more value.

Just thinkin’ out loud.

Merry new year


195 posted on 12/31/2010 3:47:46 PM PST by Apogee
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To: Apogee

It doesn’t seem really ‘reasonable’ because of the range. The guy with the club was at least 12 feet back from the door.

I know people can cover ground in 1 or 2 seconds, but they hit him before he starts to move. The light is on, the club is raised at 12 feet or so, about 1 second later 3 shots.

IMO if you have an aimed weapon they need to at least begin a charge to fire in any situation. If a CCW did what they did on camera they’d be up for murder in any state.


197 posted on 12/31/2010 4:13:22 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Apogee
I apologize: I am not willing to sign up or sign in to prove I am over 18, so I can’t see the video.

FWIW I didn't have to sign up or sign in to see the video.

198 posted on 12/31/2010 4:16:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Apogee
I apologize

No problem friend..

They just murdered this guy...He didn't have a chance, and was basically up against a well armed platoon of paramilitary soldiers, while holding a golf club...

In fact, they shot him 3 times, once in the head...He was dead before he hit the floor.....2 seconds later, the dead guy was told to, "Get on the floor".

200 posted on 12/31/2010 5:02:02 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Apogee
I apologize

No problem friend..

They just murdered this guy...He didn't have a chance, and was basically up against a well armed platoon of paramilitary soldiers, while holding a golf club...

In fact, they shot him 3 times, once in the head...He was dead before he hit the floor.....2 seconds later, the dead guy was told to, "Get on the floor".

>>Oh, and Merry Happy New Year to you too!<<

201 posted on 12/31/2010 5:03:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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