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To: OneWingedShark
That is a very interesting way of looking at the results of Roe v. Wade and treason. Of course the first crime/s SCOTUS ought to be held accountable for are the murders of over 47,000,000 Americans without due process of law that they authorized.

I can't speak for others and who they have accused of treason but when I call Bill Clinton a traitor I'm not whining about his politics. I'm talking about manipulating the system to facilitate giving the ChiComs ICBM guidance system technology and MIRVed warhead technology which we absolutely do not have any defense for no matter what anyone says about our missile defense projects. Or these other examples of treason...

"This war is lost!" - Senator Harry Reid

"And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night terrorizing kids and children." - Senator John F'n Kerry

"Shamefully, we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management: U.S. management." - Senator Ted Kennedy

"We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there." - Senator Barack 0bama

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime — Pol Pot or others — that had no concern for human beings," - Senator Dick Durbin

"We've got to ask, why is this man (Osama bin Laden) so popular around the world? Why are people so supportive of him in many countries that are riddled with poverty?" Murray said... that bin Laden has been "out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that." - Senator Patty Murray

In the context of wartime I consider those statements to be straightforward unambiguous instances of treason, as defined by the Constitution, as well.

156 posted on 12/30/2010 11:20:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
I disagree; we cannot allow 'wartime' to negate the right to free speech; and some of those you cited certainly DO fall under that heading:

"And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night terrorizing kids and children." - Senator John F'n Kerry

Certainly overdramatic, BUT there is a [half-]point that he does have about US soldiers bursting into homes; Ron Paul's suggested alternative to the Global War On Terror as retaliation against America's terrorist enemies was to make use of Letters of Marque and Reprisal. That would have been MUCH less costly and could conceivably have cut out virtually all the raids Americans did on Iraqi homes while still retaliating. (And let's be honest, a home-raid is certainly terrifying to the inhabitants be it conducted by US military or US police officers.)

"This war is lost!" - Senator Harry Reid

Being a bit of a cynic myself I shouldn't "cast the first stone" at Reid for being a doomsayer... besides, there are plenty other things I can despise him for.

I would, however, like to suggest to you John Murtha; consider that on national television he condemned, as guilty of murder, marines acting in a war-zone without ANY trial or investigation. In so doing Murtha validated the claims of [some of] the terrorists we were/are fighting AND acted outside his authority as a legislator -- even if he DID have investigative/judicial-power to declare guilt or innocence he would be COMPLETELY violating the 5th and 6th Amendments WRT to the marines. -- THAT is what I would call treason.

{And Clinton's selling of out defense secrets to the Chinese, that too.}

157 posted on 12/30/2010 11:42:13 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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