[The Antiyuppie]

I work with LEGAL immigrants, who are now citizens, they jumped through hoops to get there, earn an honest living, pay taxes, etc., and if you think that YOU are upset about this issue...

[definitelynotaliberal]

In 2001 or 2002, in an interview with the NYT, Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) said that it is not fair that software engineers from India get paid so much more than 'landscape artists' from Mexico.

I'm getting tired of this rephrasing. If an illegal alien is an undocumented worker, then why do we ut such ugly titles as 'drug dealer' on unlicensed pharmacists? And is it not patently obnoxious to say 'bank robber' when they are, in point of fact, customers without accounts?

(I'm impressed with my own handle on social justice.)

[muawiyah]

One thing we could do is recognize that the "undocumented" and "illegal" and whatever else folks want to call them are running around loose in this country WITHOUT VISAS.

You and I know that folks with visas of any kind are subject to far more restrictions and penalties than are the "illegals", so why not CREATE A VISA for the "illegals".

They don't need to apply for it, but the second they cross that border, or their visitor's visa expires, they got this new one called "Visitor2" or "Student2" (to cover the "illegal"'s kids).

First off, they have to show evidence of having MEDICAL INSURANCE. Certainly a whole host of penalties can be applied to foreigners here without MEDICAL INSURANCE. Secondly, they need to start paying the fee for the VISA ~ which is $5,000 per person, and renewable only 1 time for $10,000 per person. This fee is not refundable (lest they apply for a different visa and get it) and cannot be dismissed through a bankruptcy preceding.

Their kids (born here or not) must be fingerprinted for future reference ~ just like US Government employees or soldiers.

Failure to pay the Visa fees, or provide proof of medical insurance is a Class A felony subject to fine and imprisonment for 16 to 21 years.

That would go a long way toward FIXING the problem, and in this case we are no longer dealing with "illegals", just folks with "Visitor2" visas!

Oh, yeah, and the "Student2" visas? The leftwingtards have never complained about the practice of requiring student visas ~ even Obama's baby-daddy had one so it's gotta' be good!