[DJ MacWoW]

Would you advocate just abandoning people with other mental illnesses?

They don't always want help. You can't force them. Well unless they commit a crime like using a child or prostitution.

[wagglebee]

You are right, but it would make things a lot easier if the medical/psychological community went back to acknowledging it as a mental illness.

[TexNewMex]

I agree. I knew a really sweet man who lived on Venice Beach. Everyone called him Spoon. He was an alcoholic and had a lot of health problems, in addition to being confined to a wheelchair. Spoon told me he had a family, but he was living life on his own terms. It was such a sad situation.

[Darksheare]

Yeah, they don’t always want help, someties they see your resistance to their advances as a challenge and a come on, sometimes they try to force the issue.
During Basic training [1996] we had a guy we referred to as Bannannasack in our platoon.
He was a homosexual who signed up because Bill Clinton signed the “Don’t ask Don’t tell end to the ban on gays in the military.”
He’d jump into the shower with you.
He repeatedly got his face bashed in for it, but he wouldn’t stop.
The DrillSars said of him, “Hunh, he sure falls down alot” and that was that.
Finally he bothered me, and I beat his face bad enough that he resembled a chimp due to the swelling.
And he still would not give it up.
Last I knew, he was assigned a duty station in South Korea.
Maybe he learned, I don’t know.
But that was my experience with gays in the military.

And it illustrates the “sometimes they don’t want help” in a way.
He didn’t see anything wrong with his actions, in his mind he was simply doing what everyone wanted.