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As Gay Becomes Bourgeois
Townhall.com ^ | December 29, 2010 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/29/2010 11:03:28 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Antoninus

You know what I think is the dirty secret that makes the discussion even more difficult? The number of heterosexuals who engage in sodomy. They don’t want to be denigrated.


181 posted on 12/29/2010 2:06:13 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: TexNewMex

He had Geico, they refuse to pay.


182 posted on 12/29/2010 2:06:24 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

That’s terrible! Will your insurance company deal with Geico?


183 posted on 12/29/2010 2:07:45 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: wagglebee
but it would make things a lot easier if the medical/psychological community went back to acknowledging it as a mental illness.

Yup. They have backpedaled a little but not enough. This should have never become a political fracas.

184 posted on 12/29/2010 2:08:38 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TexNewMex

People make choices and have to live with the consequences.


185 posted on 12/29/2010 2:09:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DBeers

I agree; society used to put pressure on people to conform to general standards. That kind of “peer pressure”, I guess, is lacking.


186 posted on 12/29/2010 2:09:51 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: DJ MacWoW
This should have never become a political fracas.

Exactly, it is a mental health issue and should be treated as such.

187 posted on 12/29/2010 2:10:35 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I know you’re right. I also know I can’t judge the quality of Spoon’s life without walking in his shoes. It just makes me sad; sometimes I feel like my six-year-old son about these things. ;)


188 posted on 12/29/2010 2:12:35 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; TexNewMex

Yeah, they don’t always want help, someties they see your resistance to their advances as a challenge and a come on, sometimes they try to force the issue.
During Basic training [1996] we had a guy we referred to as Bannannasack in our platoon.
He was a homosexual who signed up because Bill Clinton signed the “Don’t ask Don’t tell end to the ban on gays in the military.”
He’d jump into the shower with you.
He repeatedly got his face bashed in for it, but he wouldn’t stop.
The DrillSars said of him, “Hunh, he sure falls down alot” and that was that.
Finally he bothered me, and I beat his face bad enough that he resembled a chimp due to the swelling.
And he still would not give it up.
Last I knew, he was assigned a duty station in South Korea.
Maybe he learned, I don’t know.
But that was my experience with gays in the military.

And it illustrates the “sometimes they don’t want help” in a way.
He didn’t see anything wrong with his actions, in his mind he was simply doing what everyone wanted.


189 posted on 12/29/2010 2:14:52 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TexNewMex

Thanks to all of you all for an interesting conversation; I have to go pick up my little munchkin now. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and a Wonderful New Year! Take care!


190 posted on 12/29/2010 2:16:03 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: TexNewMex

No, I only had liability on my car, a 1996 that wasn’t worth full comp and collision as the value of the car was far lower than what full comp and collision was worth.


191 posted on 12/29/2010 2:16:45 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TexNewMex

I hear you. Compassion is never misplaced. We just need to realize that not everyone can be helped nor do they want to be. It was something that I had to learn.


192 posted on 12/29/2010 2:20:36 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TexNewMex

And to you and yours!


193 posted on 12/29/2010 2:21:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TexNewMex
I agree; society used to put pressure on people to conform to general standards. That kind of “peer pressure”, I guess, is lacking.

I would not necessarily say that it is lacking -more it is being depressed by government. The founders did not create the greatness of America, they created the environment fostered it that allowed it to take root and happen.

I think that the drive to better ones condition, wealth creation, moral order etcetera are all imprinted withing man and that is only freedom that allows these things to develop fully. We see know a tyranny that seeks to enslave man -a tyranny that oppresses individual self determination for collective ideology. I feel the answer is to simply remove the tyranny and man will recover "naturally"....

194 posted on 12/29/2010 2:23:02 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: TexNewMex; wagglebee; Darksheare; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; trisham; scripter

IBTZ


195 posted on 12/29/2010 2:42:16 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TexNewMex; Darksheare
Just because one recognizes there are other cultures, doesn’t mean they are better (or worse) than one’s own.

Moral relativism doesn't work.

196 posted on 12/29/2010 2:45:14 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Nope. No zot. Didn’t need one.


197 posted on 12/29/2010 2:45:19 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Sherman Logan; Darksheare; wagglebee; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; Grizzled Bear; trisham; DBeers; ..
–noun an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.

Red herring.

Americans don't fear or hate people who are different than they.

On the contrary, talking to a lot of people who have visited or lived in foreign countries, there is far more prejudice against foreigners there than here in the US. We're used to it here. Many of us have grown up being exposed in our own families to more than one culture and more than one language. I grew up listening to three languages spoken at family gatherings. The relatives were always careful to speak the mother tongue when they didn't want the kids to hear the family dirt.

Besides, the default option of accusing someone who disagrees with you of *hatred* or *fear* is nothing more than smear tactics by someone who has lost the argument.

Your deceived liberal cohorts may fall for it, but anyone with any conservatism in them sees it for what it is. Simply manipulation tactics used by a loser.

198 posted on 12/29/2010 2:53:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Antoninus

I agree with you 100%.


199 posted on 12/29/2010 2:55:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Darksheare

As a matter of fact, I’ve found the majority of the smileys associated with posts have been put at the end of a post that is inflammatory or insulted to the person being responded to.

Posting a smiley like that is more of an indicator of trollish behavior than about anything else I’ve seen.


200 posted on 12/29/2010 2:55:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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