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To: Buggman
How do you figure? I for one anticipate that a number of Israelis will become Jewish believers in Yeshua--though not culturally Christian--before the Second Coming that will surprise everyone.

The so called Jews of this generational Israel may consider the prophecy pimps their friends but I would assure you they are not friends over true religion, they are not friends because they worship the same God, Jesus. The consider them friends because of politics, and they are just like politicians they will tell their audience the prophecy pimps anything they want to hear to get their vote/money. I'm not saying this generational jews are absolutely evil but at least they have a democratic government which most of their Islamic enemy surrounding them do not, and at least they have some sort of civil law based on the old Testament which the Islam counties do not, well maybe a shadow of it but far from it. Basically the U.S. government considers this generational Israel the lesser of the two evils over the very ungodly Islamic countries that surround Israel, but then again the U.S. government plays both sides of the coin because of oil situation, but hey why not use up their oil first.:^)

Personally I don't think there are very many Jews over their converting to Christianity and if so its probably just a drop in the bucket per say. I think it takes a hell of a lot of faith to believe the Jews will convert in mass, I think that is a big pipe dream of the dispensationalist, It takes more faith to believe in that then to believe the War between the States was about States Right, yeah right, it was about slavery no matter which way you slice or dice it but you can get a lot of people to believe it was about states Rights. The States Rights issue was just a cleaned up nice way to fight for slavery, to put a clean moral spin on it the issue. But it will always amaze you what some people will believe. It's hard to get people to fight over slavery but they will sure fight over the states right to continue slavery especially if most of their income comes from slavery whether they are slave owners or not. Some how money will over rule morals in most cultural cases if you are in love with the world.

Oh and I'm one of those few that believe this generation political Israel has nothing to do with the first century Jews either prophetically or genetically. Basically those Jews were destroyed by the Romans, a few fled the Romans but most of them were Jews that had already converted to Christianity or knew better then to associate with the Jewish religion, they melted into the surrounding cultures. Oh and I do like Calvin and Hobbes. :^), Well here I go again sucking up a few hours freeping and posting a post a day, I'm not to good at the typing etc. so I've got to keep it to a post a day if I want to get anything else done, take care.

60 posted on 12/30/2010 1:52:35 PM PST by ReformedBeckite
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To: ReformedBeckite
Oh and I'm one of those few that believe this generation political Israel has nothing to do with the first century Jews either prophetically or genetically.

At least with respect to genetics, you are very wrong. Do some research on Jewish genetics. You'll find that Jewish populations around the globe (except Ethiopians) cluster as one population group, including Jews from Persia, Iraq, and Bucharia, who have been in their respective host countries since the first exile, and had minimal population contacts with Jews from North Africa or Europe.

The only logical conclusion is that today's Jews predominantly descend from the Jews of 2000 years ago, with only partial admixture from surrounding populations.

81 posted on 12/30/2010 11:33:17 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (.)
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