Postmill believes Christian influence is going to improve society more and more until such a point we will have a thousand years of Christian theocratic rule over this world, a veritable utopia. A Christian one world government if you please.
Except all that you posted is a gross mischaracterization of Post Millennial thought. It only shows the weakness of your own argument when ALL you can do is lie about a competing view.
The post-mills with their polyanna utopia consider those of us who see the Bible quite differently, that things are going to get worse and worse in this world (Premillennialist), are their worst enemies.
So tell me, what age and culture would you prefer to be living in? The Pre-industrial age where the average lifespan was in the 40s? The endless wars of the 1800s, early 1900s in the West where we had millions dying from the Spanish Flu? Then World War I? Or do you prefer the Great Depression, the Rape of Nanking, Stalin's purges, Hitler's Holocaust, Cambodian killing fields, the endless plagues and famines in Africa. Tell me, in the day where we finally have a generation of people who do not know war, our greatest health threat is obesity, and much of the population is unacquainted with even a single day's work yet lives in peace and prosperity, which days do you believe were man's zenith when he could achieve nothing more and all the days that remain are nothing but Darkness?
You are an ignorant fool if you think that the world's best days are long behind. The Far East is exploding with new converts adding countless numbers to the roll call in Heaven and all you do is myopically look at the decadent West and moan "Woe is me". You hate God when He says "I am not mocked whatever a man sows that is what he will reap" and then actually follows through with that promise by allowing the West to commit suicide. Did you not know that even in the earliest days God said that a nation's sinfulness would cause the land to vomit them out? Yet when it happens to the West you automatically think the whole earth is seconds away from the Apocalypse? Who is being silly and irrational here?
They are on these threads deceiving everybody they can with their silly view.
I'm neither Premill or Postmill and while I believe the Postmill's have some minor defects in their eschatology, when it comes down to plain silliness and outright lunacy no one holds a candle to Premillennial Dispensationalists. Over the last few weeks I have only scratched the surface in revealing the insane and ludicrous claims made by what can only be called Dysfunctionalists.
At least Post Mills aren't constantly date-setting, writing insipid Left Behind fiction, changing the covers of old rehashed books unchanged except for the names of leaders, countries and weapons upgrades, profiteering off of the biblically illiterate in endless Prophecy Conferences, bombarding the airwaves with silliness that best belongs to the Art Bell crowd, rewriting the Bible, and telling us that Christ is going to be making animal blood Sacrifices to Himself in a building pock-marked by the many pre-tribulation satellites that are plowing into the side of the "New Jerusalem" wart that can be seen unaided by optics from the planet Jupiter.
It is your crowd that fantasizes about rounding up all of the world's Jews so that 2/3rds of them can be conveniently slaughtered by an aging and relatively toothless Russia/Soviet Union/Russia/Iran/North Korea/Iraq/Egypt/Iran/Russia/China/whoever is in rotation this week to be the invading nation prophesized by Daniel's carousel of despots.
It is your "Profits of Doom" who think its fully acceptable that China could somehow manage to breed, raise, train and outfit 200,000,000 horse mounted soldiers eager to travel thousands of miles over the world's most hostile terrain just to die in a scratch of worthless land along the eastern Med. Has anyone in your cabal ever noodled out the infrastructure and planning for such an operation and still think that China would rather do that than rain down a battery of ICBMs?
Has anyone even come up with a sane reason why Russia or China would go full-out against Israel?
Can you give any of us a reason why God would devote a huge part of His Revelation to reprobates who hate Him and have zero desire to know what is in store? Aren't you Dispies of the belief that you will miss most of that which is allegedly described in Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation?
Furthermore, in each and every case where God dealt with Israel and raised up a nation, it was for a purpose, yet you have no purpose for most of what is allegedly predicted/interpreted by your Prophets of Doom in the Future! How can Israel be spanked for no Temple worship and for missing Jubilees when God has forbidden the Jews to even build a Temple or even have a biblical government ruled by priests? And why, after Christ's death on the cross would anyone ever rely on blood animal sacrifices? What kind of spiritual crisis do you guys get into when an ethnic Jew gets regrafted back into the tree of Abraham? Is he, because of DNA, required to continue to slaughter critters and abide by OT dietary laws, or can he enjoy the liberty of Christ's Righteousness?
Here is an example of how much Dispies hate sound doctrine and the integrity of the Word. You said:
The New Testament, of course, says just the opposite, the world will NOT get better and better but worse and worse
(Personally, I believe that the Bible speaks of no such thing, surely the oppression of the Roman Empire is Hell compared to anything today, but I do believe that the American Religion, characterized by Free Will soteriology and a Premillennial Dispensational eschatology is the Apostasy of our Age - but that is a different conversation.)
Yet Ezekiel 47:1-11 tells of the Great Expansion of the Gospel symbolized by living water to all the nations, starting in Jerusalem from the Temple built not by human hands, going from ankle deep, to the knees, waist to one that could not be crossed given to produce a people who bear great fruit in all seasons whose fruit of Righteousness is for food and medicine that feeds and cures the world. What do you think is more important to God, millions of people coming to a saving knowledge of our LORD, or your gun-in-the-mouth disappointment because you can't afford the 60"plasma TV and must settle for a 48" which we all know, according to Daniel is the sign of economic struggles signifying the Last Day!
You have the OT in contradiction to the NT. You have the NT in contradiction to what we see before our eyes how the Gospel has transformed the world and brought peace and prosperity to all corners of the world, to all men.
But hey, you want Doom & Gloom and are willing to trash and ridicule people who have hope and faith in a victorious God.
Your entire post assumes I am a Dispensationalist, I am not, I am Premillennialist, however. As to yourself, you never said clearly what position you hold to. In my 40 years of being in the middle of the “prophecy wars” I have learned not to trust someone who hides what he believes. Preterists and Postmills do it all the time.
I’ll sum up your post in a few words, don’t throw the baby out with the wash water. Granted, people tend to interpret prophesied future events prematurely.
Read the Pseudipigrapha if you want to see a prime example of it. These were Jews in the years before Christ who contrived all sorts of scenarios about the Messianic future, all of them premature and wrong. Yet Christ arrived right on time fulfilling the messianic prophesies despite all their schemes.
The same today with the Dispensationalists, they’ve been wrong on so many things it isn’t funny. But the prophetic scripture will be fulfilled precisely despite them.
Same with the Preterists and Postmills, and yourself whatever you are, you are disgusted with the Dispensationalists and you throw the baby out, opting instead for even more false prophetic schemes. Prophecy will be fulfilled no matter what people do with it.