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Fog Lifts At Chengdu (Chinese Stealth Aircraft)
Aviation Week Ares Blog ^ | 29 December 2010 | Bill Sweetman

Posted on 12/29/2010 5:41:33 AM PST by Yo-Yo

More photos. The PLA has clearly been reading Air Power Australia, because this looks not unlike a stealth F-111.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; stealth
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To: rdcbn
Well it still looks like the F-23 and it go's to prove a point,that the U.S.doesn't have a monopoly on aircraft design.Let's hope that the USAF and the U.S. Navy are planning ahead to meet and defeat any potential 5th Generation fighters No matter what country builds them.

Hopefully the confess and Lockeed-Martin can come to an agreement to build more F-22’s at a lower price point.Because it looks like we're going to need them soon.

As of right Now we don't have enough F-22’s to act as a deterrent to any major countries air forces.

21 posted on 12/29/2010 6:33:50 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Stealthy it’s not—especially from the rear. Even Sukhoi-HAL PAK-FA will likely get F-22 style engine exhaust nozzles that will blend into the rear if the fuselage to reduce its radar cross section.


22 posted on 12/29/2010 6:34:34 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

“The only thing the Chinese need to read are the classified US documents that they clearly have had no trouble getting their hands on.”

Now that GE is partnering with the Chicoms we can just roll over and die.

I’m beyond shocked at how America has been betrayed by every single politician.


23 posted on 12/29/2010 6:35:32 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: taildragger
The canards remind me of the F-15 ACTIVE, which also had dihedral in the canards.


24 posted on 12/29/2010 6:35:44 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: rdcbn

Well it still looks like the F-23 and it go’s to prove a point,that the U.S.doesn’t have a monopoly on aircraft design.Let’s hope that the USAF and the U.S. Navy are planning ahead to meet and defeat any potential 5th Generation fighters No matter what country builds them.
Hopefully the confess and Lockeed-Martin can come to an agreement to build more F-22’s at a lower price point.Because it looks like we’re going to need them soon.

As of right Now we don’t have enough F-22’s to act as a deterrent to any major countries air forces.

Confess should have read as Congress.My damn fingers are to fast for my own good.


25 posted on 12/29/2010 6:38:35 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Looks more like a YF-23 to me (if we are making comparisons)


26 posted on 12/29/2010 6:43:27 AM PST by Kegger
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To: SeeSac
On this aircraft I do not see any similarity to the F-111.

The Russian aircraft on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2648455/posts

has a side by side cockpit that resembles the F-111.

27 posted on 12/29/2010 6:49:41 AM PST by Never on my watch (When Obama was born, the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" was in production. Coincidence?)
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To: puppypusher
Well it still looks like the F-23

Well, I guess if you squint really hard...it does indeed!

28 posted on 12/29/2010 6:49:53 AM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: puppypusher
I wonder if the Chinese stole the plans.

The plans were part of an exchange program.

Give money to Bill Clinton in exchange for these plans and many other military secrets. (ie. MIRV technology for their missiles)

29 posted on 12/29/2010 7:04:44 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Yo-Yo

Big plane.
Bet it’s designed to carry a ‘carrier killer’ missile.


30 posted on 12/29/2010 7:09:20 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Yo-Yo

With those exhausts and what appear to be pylons on the wings, I don’t know how “stealthy” that thing’s going to be compared to US birds. Big fighter though.


31 posted on 12/29/2010 7:21:28 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Yo-Yo

Engine outlets will make this one huge arse heat-seeking target....stealthy, huh? =.=


32 posted on 12/29/2010 7:46:28 AM PST by cranked
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To: Thermalseeker
The Chinese have fly by wire on this aircraft.

The Chengdu guys really like canards despite the hit on RCS,which can be managed, and they have not yet mastered some of the more sophisticated methods of pitch control.

I would not dismiss this design - they have been working on it since the 80’s and it could be very well executed within the materials and technological constraints they are dealing with.

33 posted on 12/29/2010 8:17:10 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn
The Chinese have fly by wire on this aircraft.....and they have not yet mastered some of the more sophisticated methods of pitch control.

Precisely my point. The reason they are using the canard is for high angle of attack, slow speed pitch control. They have fly by wire, but it is obviously not advanced to the point where conventional control surfaces can be used throughout the flight envelope. In simple terms they haven't figured out how (or more likely where) to sample pitch, roll and yaw so that their flight system can compensate for high angles of attack using conventional control surfaces or thrust vectoring. So, they use the canard.

The Chengdu guys really like canards despite the hit on RCS,which can be managed...

True, if they have the right materials. This is an area where I've worked. To my knowledge the Chinese do not currently have material science advanced to the point where they fully understand RF absorption.

I would not dismiss this design

I wouldn't dismiss anything out of the Chinese......

34 posted on 12/29/2010 9:13:05 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: taildragger

I was thinking that with all the “add-ons” you mentioned that this thing will be about as stealthy as my motor home.

And considering the Chinese build quality I have seen in other vehicles(look good, but fall apart in 6 months) I would not want to fly it. The real rigors of combat will render it useless after a few missions.


35 posted on 12/29/2010 9:41:55 AM PST by biff
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To: Yo-Yo; taildragger
Here's a line drawing of the J-20:


36 posted on 12/29/2010 6:48:24 PM PST by gandalftb (OK State, 10-2, Go #14 Cowboys! Valero Alamo Bowl 12/29 Beat AZ!)
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