law abiding gun owners of their concealed carry privileges during inclement weather?
Yes I can..
Posted on 12/29/2010 4:01:29 AM PST by marktwain
>> screw mans law, it has no meaning no longer
Is that to say man’s law still has meaning?
at first, a very few did
none now since we need to be in revolution
Looting Juz need they stuff...baby...This can be the future....
We had a fairly high-level executive from our state's fire service and emergency management agency, who warned residents not to consider going to Louisiana to assist relatives or friends in their communities after several local churches had organized relief teams. Those *freelancers* would be arrested and their supplies confiscated, he warned.
We advised him: anyone attempting to do so or otherwise interfere with our activities [down around Pass Christian, MS] would be considered a looter, and we would hang them or shoot them on the spot, their *emergency managers* included.
And then we'd return to our home state and burn down their houses.
Nobody tried to interfere with us in any way.
Already in the pipeline:
SAF SUES TO OVERTURN NORTH CAROLINA’S 'EMERGENCY POWERS' GUN BANS
For Immediate Release: 6/29/2010
BELLEVUE, WA –
The Second Amendment Foundation on Monday filed a federal lawsuit in North Carolina, seeking a permanent injunction against the governor, local officials and local governments from declaring states of emergency under which private citizens are prohibited from exercising their right to bear arms.
Joining SAF in this lawsuit are Grass Roots North Carolina – the state’s leading gun rights organization, and three private citizens, Michael Bateman, Virgil Green and Forrest Minges, Jr. Named as defendants in the federal lawsuit are North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue; Reuben Young, secretary of the Department of Crime Control and Public Safety; Stokes County and the City of King. The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina.
The lawsuit contends that state statutes that forbid the carrying of firearms and ammunition during declared states of emergency are unconstitutional. Plaintiffs also contend that a North Carolina law that allows government officials to prohibit the purchase, sale and possession of firearms and ammunition are also unconstitutional because they forbid the exercise of Second Amendment rights as affirmed by Monday’s Supreme Court ruling in McDonald v. City of Chicago, the landmark Second Amendment ruling that incorporated the Second Amendment to the states.
SAF and the Illinois State Rifle Association took the McDonald Case to the Supreme Court.
“Through this lawsuit in North Carolina,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb,” we intend to show that state emergency powers statutes that allow government officials to suspend fundamental civil rights, including the right to bear arms, are unconstitutional and therefore should be nullified. Citizens do not surrender their civil rights just because of a natural or man-made disaster.”
SAF is once again being represented by attorney Alan Gura, who led the legal effort in the McDonald case and also won the historic Heller ruling that overturned the District of Columbia handgun ban in 2008. Local counsel are Andrew Tripp and Kearns Davis with the firm of Brooks, Pierce, McLendon, Humphrey & Leonard, LLC in Raleigh.
The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation's oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and an amicus brief and fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.
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United Statec Code, U.S. Criminal Code
Title 18, Part I, Chapter 13, §ection 241
Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;
or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
I avoid NC when traveling.
Yes I can..
Ideas 1 & 2 -well, maybe.
Idea 3? Are you subject to the UCMJ? Understand that only service members are subject to it, therefore, if you are not, you would be subject to federal law on a federal installation, you would never see the CO, as he has no need to deal with you, the Federal Magistrate would be your stopping point, that or the nearest federal court.
DO NOT TRY TO ENTER a base armed and carrying-you’ll likley get shot. Bases have varying regulation in regards to bringing arms onto the post, some allow it rather mundanely (esp if there is public highway going through the base). Do not attempt to enter a base with no pertinent reason or needs of business-such entry is prohibited in general.
I am no longer subject to the UCMJ, I did my time and got out.
The funny thing is that the law I cited “Conspiracy Against rights” is ALSO a federal law and makes it a crime for ANY group of people to conspire to “injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person [...] in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same.”
IOW, just because I might POSSIBLY* be violating federal law does not mean that by upholding federal lay they are not breaking [a] federal law.
*Such laws as firearm-restrictions are VERY contra-constitutional, the current political climate is especially good for the repeal of these laws.
I bring firearms onto a major military installation all the time, completely legal. I shoot, I train others and I hunt. However, I do not presume to be able to carry openly or concealed-while I disagree, I am not willing to go to federal prison for it. Test cases against the exceptios given the military (again, I amy not agreewith) need for good ordr and discipline, often are used against reasonable practices. Lobby the installation, present factual informationa nd case precent, do not simply try to “exercise” your right-you could find yourself dead or in prison. there are beter ways to bring about change, I think.
I have shot trap with teh Post CG, he is willing to discuss most topics, but often even a Majro Genreal is limited by his superiors.
I know you will likely call us all wimps, morally deprived etc, but a fight over this topic is won by consistent, persistent logical and reasoned argument, not hasty action.
If you have no legitimate reason/need to enter a post, do not waste everyones time. Exercise your right to carry or whatever where it is recognized, avoid the other places while being a force for change. It happens slowly, whether we like it or not.
Best;
Gosh, cleaning crew must have shuffled my key board keys again....
Sorry.
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