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America's Dangerous Rush to Shrink Its Military Power
Wall St Journal ^ | dec 27, 2010 | MARK HELPRIN

Posted on 12/27/2010 3:03:21 AM PST by The Raven

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1 posted on 12/27/2010 3:03:25 AM PST by The Raven
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huh...sure would like to read..


2 posted on 12/27/2010 3:36:59 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Hmmm...try this

.America's Dangerous Rush to Shrink Its Military Power


3 posted on 12/27/2010 3:40:47 AM PST by The Raven
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BY MARK HELPRIN

From the president on down through his secretary of defense, the service secretaries, and a cast of generals whose decorations would choke an alpine meadow with color, we are told that further reductions in American military power are warranted and unavoidable. This view is supported by the left, the right that unwisely fears accounting more than war, by most of the press, the academy, and perhaps a majority of Americans, and it is demonstrably and dangerously wrong.

Based upon nothing and ignoring the cautionary example of World War II, we are told that we will never face two major enemies ...

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4 posted on 12/27/2010 3:44:31 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: The Raven

Not unexpected. I haven’t read the article yet, but this is another important step in the destruction of America. Must be a Democrat president, yep. Democrat Congress, yep. Always happens when they get in power.


5 posted on 12/27/2010 3:48:01 AM PST by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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To: bushpilot1

Oh....sorry...they used to allow reading of the opinion page


6 posted on 12/27/2010 3:50:26 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven

It appears to me that we will be facing Nuclear weapons in South America before too long.

Somebody better WTFU.


7 posted on 12/27/2010 4:12:41 AM PST by Venturer
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If you want to read the article...

Put the entire title into Google search (Only Google seems to work) and click on the first link. That should take you to a the full article.

8 posted on 12/27/2010 4:31:19 AM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: The Raven

There are some interesting comments - click the tab on the page.

* Timothy D. Naegele wrote:
Of course, Mark Helprin is correct. It is demonstrably and dangerously wrong to reduce our military might one iota.

Some of the military leaders who support reductions are the same ones who lacked cojones when it came to the “surge” in Iraq,
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We have a professional politician as president, who never served in the U.S. military.
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Helprin is right and Obama is wrong: the military must never wait for the economy. As I have written: “America’s economic and military strength go hand in hand. Both are indispensable ingredients of our great nation’s future strength.
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Lastly, Helprin’s words are prophetic: “a nation that has lost the unapologetic drive to defend itself cannot escape the consequences no matter how deft its self-deceptions or the extent to which, in contradiction of history and fact, error is ratified by common belief.”

See
http://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/barack-obama-is-a-lame-duck-president-who-will-not-be-reelected

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/tms/politics/2009/Apr/08/euphoria_or_the_obama_depression_.html


9 posted on 12/27/2010 4:32:38 AM PST by Whenifhow
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Another threat..

US stunned: New Chinese missile capable of sinking every US supercarrier

http://www.helium.com/items/1915068-chinese-dong-feng-missile-capable-of-sinking-every-us-supercarrier


10 posted on 12/27/2010 6:05:27 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: The Raven

Maybe Helperin could answer this questions first:

- Why has the U.S. had a continual troop presence in Korea, Europe, and Japan for over 50 years (and many other places, too)?

It was absurd for the U.S. to prop up those countries for so long. If they didn’t have the guts to develop a strong defense for themselves in a reasonable amount of time then they didn’t deserve to have our young men and women as their first line of defense.


11 posted on 12/27/2010 6:12:41 AM PST by webstersII
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My day job is with a major defense contractor. My particular plant manufactures spare parts for much of the Army’s vehicle fleets. As you can imagine, the Army’s operational pace has kept us busy. Except sometime last year TACOM (Tank and Automotive Command) cancelled their standing orders and we will lay off roughly 70% of the company by August. The reason they were able to do this is they’ve scrapped half of the fleets for spare parts.

If you think about this for two seconds you’ll ask; what happens when we run out of spares? While I’m certain my company will survive it will be a long, expensive and failure-prone exercise to reconstitute the company to its present world-class capability. Off the cuff, our Logistics guy guesses there will be sufficient parts to run the fielded vehicles to 2012. Restarting the plant could take two years and bulk deliveries will take months longer to fill the pipeline.

But, hang on, there’s more insanity. The procurement office has decided that it’s not “ethical” for the company that designs something for the military to produce it. Therefore, the recently completed designs must be contracted out to competitors.

In the bad-old-days Engineering used to operate independently from Production. Therefore designs were elegant, un-producible art. Today, the folks who will produce the hardware watch the design coming together like mother cats. Imagine what the hardware will devolve into if the engineer never knows or sees the ultimate manufacturer. Even assuming the designs are perfect, the money is in production, not design. This artificial “ethics” issue will turn the hardware into mediocrity made solid.

I’m sure the Defense Department would wave around glossy Power Point slides explaining how as yet undersigned super weapons will magically swoop in at precisely the right time to save us. I’ve been in engineering a long time and I can spot a process designed to fail. This is it.


12 posted on 12/27/2010 6:21:23 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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The procurement office has decided that it’s not “ethical” for the company that designs something for the military to produce it. Therefore, the recently completed designs must be contracted out to competitors.

Don't that sound familiar...I hear that some BS on the Aerospace side.


13 posted on 12/27/2010 6:56:15 AM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: FromLori

I have said this before in this forum and been attacked by Navy folks saying Carriers are practically invincible.

I am afraid that these Carriers may someday become a liability.

If the Chinese have this capability I am pretty sure the Russians are not far behind.

The Carriers may go the way of the 2nd. World War Battleships.

In fact 2500 people died at Pearl Harbor , and we have almost 6,000 men on todays Carriers.

B-2’s may become the answer.Leave from the Continental US and carry the war to them.

We have been lucky since WW2 and have not fought all-out with a country with equal weapons to our own.


14 posted on 12/27/2010 7:43:12 AM PST by Venturer
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The defense problem with carriers lies in the inability to reload VLS systems at sea. If you can catch a battle group far enough away from port and saturate it’s defenses eventually it’s going to run out of SM-2’s, Sea Sparrows, etc. to stop incoming missiles.


15 posted on 12/27/2010 10:23:55 AM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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Actually the problem is that CVBGs now have 3 escorts. They used to have 2 Destroyers, 2 firgates, and 2 or 3 cruisers. Now they are lucky to have 2 Arleigh Burkes and a Ticonderoga.


16 posted on 12/27/2010 10:26:32 AM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: webstersII

I’m not sure about Germany, but the Constitution that the US created for the Japanese after WWII basically forbade them any ability to project any force any where. Their armed forces were by dint of the wording of that Constitution re-named and became in fact “Self-Defense” forces, legally proscribed from developing anything that could remotely be termed “of aggressive purpose”.

The Japanese haven’t developed any weapons systems of note since then, being forced into client state status by the actions of a victorious USA.

As for Europe and the rest of the free world, the USA basically said “Don’t worry about it, WE’LL look after defense against the communist bloc, or anything else that might come up.”

The rest of the world took the USA at their word, and now some folks deride and insult the nations that believed America’s promise. Go figure.


17 posted on 12/27/2010 10:37:21 AM PST by Don W (I keep some folks' numbers in my 'phone just so I know NOT to answer when they call...)
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Hanging, firing squad, electric chair...what IS the penalty for treason again?

NO Cheers, unfortunately.

18 posted on 12/27/2010 10:54:24 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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(Continuing my prior response to you on this thread.)

Just waterboard the f***er first, and his wife, the Iron Dingbat (h/t to P.J. O'Rourke), to roll up their network.

Hmmm, if we did that, we'd probably take out 60% of the Democrat party, 90% of the MSM, and a good two-thirds of liberal academia.

So, what's the drawback?

19 posted on 12/27/2010 10:56:14 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rmlew

Same problem, just exacerbated by the lack of escorts. I have no clue what our leaders are thinking.


20 posted on 12/27/2010 11:30:32 AM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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