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Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’
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Posted on 12/24/2010 12:47:13 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

“I knew his mother and father — they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that” ..... “let’s put this particular canard to rest”......

Translation: I know the real story because his parents were my “friends”, and because of that it would be disloyal to reveal the true story. So I would rather move on and disregard this....


61 posted on 12/24/2010 3:57:39 PM PST by fivecatsandadog (Don't let reality ruin your day.)
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To: patriot08
I will never again trust Rush, Beck, Hannity, Ingram, or the rest. Some things are “deal breakers”. Once that trust is destroyed it can **never** be rebuilt.

These yappers failed to stand up to the so-called conservative principles that they claim to hold. They are little yapping toy poodles. They nibble around the edges. They are weenies. They are cowards. They have gonads the size of dust mites!

If and when tyranny comes to our nation. These yappers will sell their talents to the fascists. They will spit shine and lick the jack boots crushing our necks.

And,...Again I am especially “cranky” with Coulter. She is contemptible.

62 posted on 12/24/2010 3:58:32 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: wintertime
Everyone that you mentioned would have been crushed like a bug.

They helped pretty good though with the last election.

63 posted on 12/24/2010 4:05:20 PM PST by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: wintertime
“I will never again trust Rush, Beck, Hannity, Ingram, or the rest.”

I am hopeful that the NY Times coverage of this story will “allow” the right-wing talkers to bring it up. They can't be accused of flogging the story if they are merely talking about the MSM coverage of the story.

The NY Times disingenuously claims that the story of about defending Obama from the birthers, but the NY Times is not that stupid. The story is about Abercrombie threatening Obama that he will change HI law to open the records if Obama doesn't sign a release, IMO!

64 posted on 12/24/2010 4:10:06 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: melancholy; little jeremiah; mojitojoe; El Gato; rxsid; Fred Nerks; Beckwith

ping, if you haven’t seen this big BC story...


65 posted on 12/24/2010 4:11:48 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Sub-Driver

Someone help me here. What is hiding beneath the surface.

Is there something that Obama can not release under current law.

A sealed birth certificate before adoption??


66 posted on 12/24/2010 4:17:31 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Seizethecarp

Very, very, very interesting!!!!

Thanks for the ping.


67 posted on 12/24/2010 4:21:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...

Ping..............

If you would like to see the newest store openeed Nov. 2:

HI Governor & 0b0z0 = Abercrombie & *itch

Thank you, seizethecarp.


68 posted on 12/24/2010 4:29:51 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Sub-Driver

This can only mean the forgery is in place. This guy is an outright commie, else why would the parents be close friends?


69 posted on 12/24/2010 4:35:26 PM PST by itsahoot (We the people, allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks for the ping, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Sounds like the only person to ever see ‘the parents’ of zero in the same place at the same time might be planning a bigger and better forgery...a long form with the name of a doctor - nudge nudge wink wink


70 posted on 12/24/2010 4:37:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yep, they will make rolls of toilet paper that could be plastered on 0b0z0s front lobe!

Maybe the new venture should plaster it on busses and on billboards next to the ones that ask “where is the BC?”


71 posted on 12/24/2010 4:45:21 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: melancholy

Abercrombie is just another useful idiot for zero, If he finagles another phony certificate and presents it as something he managed to obtain through his position as governor of HI, all he will have done is covered for the usurper, who, when the fraud is finally uncovered, which it will be, will simply throw Abercrombie under the bus.

With all of the enablers who lied to us, and that’s a very long list.


72 posted on 12/24/2010 5:07:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Danae
ping to Abercrombie becoming a birther supposedly to defend the reputation of Obama’s parents...

I would like to think that the fact that you provided sufficient proof to substantiate your claim that a long form BC could be obtained for a 1960's birth contributed to refuting the now abandoned MSM talking point that _only_ a COLB computer summary could be obtained from HI.

73 posted on 12/24/2010 5:19:11 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Fred Nerks

I don’t know if Abercrombie is that crazy to take a chance that may very well land him in jail.

You’re right; the long list of enablers is almost half the far left!

With my best Roy scheider voice: you need a bigger jail!


74 posted on 12/24/2010 5:40:19 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Fred Nerks
This is a big admission by Abercrombie that despite DOH and Lingle’s assertions, the matter has not been put to rest. This is now obvious to the MSM after this story and the one in the LA Times.

When Abercrombie says...

“He’s a big boy, he can take sticks and stones, but there’s no reason on Earth to have the memory of his parents insulted by people whose motivation is solely political,” Mr. Abercrombie said. “Let’s put this particular canard to rest.”

...it is almost like Abercrombie is scolding Obama for being unwilling to risk “sticks and stones” (what could those be?) for the sake of the memory of his parents.

If a forgery has been prepared (frankly I doubt it given today's forensic science) it would have to withstand much more withering facial scrutiny then the 2007 COLB.

A long form will have a hospital with support staff and an MD might still be alive and who may have relatives and signature samples available.

75 posted on 12/24/2010 5:41:54 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Sub-Driver
Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who befriended President Obama’s parents when they were university students here...

So, the governor of Hawaii hung out with commies in the 60's? That's a *real* credential he's got there! </sarcasm>

76 posted on 12/24/2010 5:43:23 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Seizethecarp
If a forgery has been prepared (frankly I doubt it given today's forensic science) it would have to withstand much more withering facial scrutiny then the 2007 COLB.

Under "normal" work ethics and integrity, I would have definitely agreed with you.

However, everything under the sun is politicized. The forensic experts will definitely rule for 0b0z0 if they are chosen correctly and are paid millions under the table.

You can put me in the cynics' column on this one.

We really, really want to see his education records. If authentic, he's destroyed as an AA, foreign student, no GPAs to right home about, no brilliance, no messiah status and possibly totally paid for by the Saudis.

Any medical records may tell us what a bisexual druggie we have for a POTUS!

I can dream, can't I?

77 posted on 12/24/2010 5:55:13 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Seizethecarp

He already laid the groundwork with this speech, and no one objected:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trqfq9FY1Ig


78 posted on 12/24/2010 6:27:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Sub-Driver; melancholy; opentalk; RobinMasters; LucyT; Candor7; george76; pissant; Polarik; BP2; ...
The LA Times had a story with a similar theme yesterday: Abercrombie was hell-bent on proving to the world that Obama was born in Hawaii. Now the NY Times has this article. Does someone get the idea that we're seeing a classical MSM feeding frenzy here? Orchestrated from high in the Obama hierarchy or the 'Rat Party apparatus?

Sure looks like the Obamatons are nervous and on the defensive with respect to the constitutional eligibility issue.

And, BTW, contrary to Gov. Abercrombie, it's no insult to Obama's mother nor father to suggest that Obama might have been born in Kenya. At least three Kenyan parliamentarians, the Kenyan ambassador to the United States, and Obama's paternal grandmother have stated that he was born there.

Nor should Abercrombie be insulted by bills in Congress to require presidential candidates to prove their American birth. All these bills are doing is providing a mode for (at least partially) enforcing the "natural born citizen" clause in the US Constitution - a Constitution Abercrombie has sworn to uphold many times in his political career.

79 posted on 12/24/2010 6:32:21 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: melancholy

Any medical records would also show his blood group...and his blood group might open up another unwanted can of worms.

Just like we mustn’t see his kindergartne records, because that might show his name...

And that’s why the period of time he spent at Noelani school in 1969 with Scott Inoue was skipped. What was his name then?

Barry Who?


80 posted on 12/24/2010 6:34:23 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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