[Leaning Right]

“the guerrilla tactic maybe the best one”

By guerrilla tactics, I assume you are including the (hypothetical, of course) use of arms against the government.

Well, waging guerrilla tactics against a foreign invader or unelected domestic despot is one thing.

But to do so against your own freely-elected government (as misguided as that government may be), would be considered by many patriots, including me, as a form of treason.

Of course, we’re only talking hypotheticals here.

I would instead urge an all-out attempt to call a Constitutional Convention, as noted in my post #26.

[MileHi]

I would instead urge an all-out attempt to call a Constitutional Convention

Sure. Then all the leftists can enshrine the social utopia right in there. We need to force government back to the written document and work to undo several amendments, the sixteenth and seventeenth for starters. IMNSHO

[fr_freak]

Well, waging guerrilla tactics against a foreign invader or unelected domestic despot is one thing.

But to do so against your own freely-elected government (as misguided as that government may be), would be considered by many patriots, including me, as a form of treason.

Then you are saying you'd be loyal to the government no matter what they did, as long as "elections" were held? At what point would you consider the government to be illegitimate? The interesting thing about our current situation is that we have a high percentage of "citizens" who have been indoctrinated to despise their own country, and the Constitution, and the principles set forth in the Constitution. They then help elect like-minded people to our government, which then acts in violation of the highest law of our land. You should ask yourself what it is that you are really loyal to, because, for me, it is the Constitution first, then the government, as long as the government is acting within the limits of the Constitution, regardless of whether they are elected or not. And we won't even go into the subject of the blatant voter fraud in terms of legitimacy.

I think a Constitutional convention would be a bad idea at this point because we have too many people who despise our founding principles, so a convention would provide them with the opportunity to remove those principles from our highest law, whether by legitimate vote or by fraud.

[Dick Bachert]

While an excellent argument can be made for term limits (which, along with elimination of the fat pensions, perks and LAME DUCK SESSIONS I favor), I would offer that, currently, our chances of getting them are somewhere between slim and none. The sad fact that we are even discussing them is a manifestation of the even sadder fact that, until recently, Americans have grown complacently inattentive to the actions of and abuses by government at all levels. The phrase “Let George do it” springs to mind. More folks know the names of the characters on “Lost” and “Dancing With The Stars” than know who allegedly “represents” them in the House.

Having said that, I must respectfully disagree with calls for a Constitutional Convention. I do so for the same reasons I joined with others to repel the push for a ConCon during the Carter maladministration.

Please recall that the FIRST ConCon was convened to REVISE the Articles of Confederation and, while it produced a radically different – and arguably superior – national charter, the problem to which I referred at the top would almost certainly lead to a loss of even more of the freedoms too many of us now take for granted.

A second ConCon would be populated by current political elites who have been selected BY their fellow political elites. Think Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Fortney “Pete” Stark, etc. Be afraid. Be VERY AFRAID!

Unfortunately for us and our liberties, General Washington, Messers. Madison, Franklin, Adams, Sherman and the others will not be there this time. Once in session, THERE WOULD BE NO PRACTICAL WAY TO CONTROL THEM.

But, say you, the PEOPLE would have to ratify any such actions. Please recall that, today, these would be the same people who gave us Barrack Obama and hundreds of “progressives” on Capitol Hill in 2008.

Yes, 2010 WAS a course change and, no, I’m not giving up on the people. In our system, they should, within Constitutional constraints, have the last word.

Mr. Jefferson’s advice in that area comes to mind:
“I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion.”

Those of us who wish to save this nation and return it to a condition the Founders would again recognize must continue to “…inform their discretion.”

Dick Bachert