Posted on 12/24/2010 3:33:40 AM PST by Scanian
Anyone here remember a-bert?
FRiend, you wouldn’t appear to know a duck from a Hummingbird. I personally know bert since we’re int he same zone. He has spent more than one day on the lines, working Walter Reed, freeping the scum of the left. See if you can find that lemon now, presumptuous dolt.
The Third Reich had two Islamic Army Divisions.
Dane and Willie Green were pre 2000 sign ups. Were they not trolls?
Trolling is about behavior, not sign up dates.
bert is no troll. Have a nice night.
How about Dane and Willie Green? I could use a little reassurance.
This posts seem an awful lot the eneMedia reports when they tell us that man made climate change is true.
You never answered. Was Dane a troll? How about Willie Green?
Bert, you don't have to hide. Why don't you come out and answer for yourself?
I read a report on Iran the other day that indicated that only 2% of the Iranian population were believing Muslims.
Most of the Persian people are secular in private but play the muzzie game in public; their women cover up and the men go through the motions of religiosity. But Iran is much different than most of the Arab countries or Pakistan.
It’s Christmas.
I choose not to take on the great horde of unwashed ignorati today
That seems suspiciously low, and I'd want more documentation. My first issue is related to the difficulty in getting an accurate answer in a country where the penalty for apostasy is death.
Even if people don't believe in it, Islam will be supported by the underclass because of Islam's built-in welfare system, and by the mullah-class that Islam gives power to. In order to be free, the Iranian middle-class would need to kill the mullahs AND the underclass, destroy the mosques, and burn the Qurans.
If this ever happened, the effects throughout the Muslim would would be impossible to calculate beforehand.
As a card carrying member of the great horde of unwashed ignorati I wonder why you say one thing and do another.
I see that bert went to the John Kerry school of debate.
When you lack any credible argument simply call your opponent stupid.
Stay classy, bertie baby!
I think you’re right.
A reason many in Iran still do not rise up in “significant numbers” against the regime is because the regime continues to hammer in Islam (a faith) in to the populace thru a variety of means. (continuous brainwashing - the people often don’t even notice - they’ve been going thru the Islamic [faith] indoctrination process for decades/centuries, often disguised/positioned as so-called “non-political” or “moderate Islam”).
Naturally, it is all about politics. And, in the meantime misleading the people & keeping the masses as ignorant, superstitious & isolated as possible.
Sadly, the mullahs aren’t alone — They have the help of foreign govts & others ... (mostly American, European & many of those Iranians who are sent to the West by the regime under pretences, or those Iranians who were born & raised in the West, who enjoy western democracy to the full, but either don’t care about their compatriots, or have a vested financial and/or ideological interests in keeping the Islamic regime, thru Islam, alive in Iran).
The regime in Iran will ONLY be dismantled thru force & thru a clear rejection of Islam by the majority in Iran. Islam is the Iranian regime’s Achilles heel. Islam is & has been the regime’s strength & its KEY weakness, should the Iranians by majority decide to reject it.
But, given the above-mentioned factors, it will continue to be an uphill battle.
A clue that more people reject Islam itself would be for anti-Islam graffiti to appear more and more, stuff mocking the mullahs and Mohammad himself. The effect would be to tell anti-Islam Iranians that they were not alone. If the majority is really that disenchanted, the graffiti would spread as an epidemic.
From what I hear, what you just wrote is taking place more & more, but in private.
I also think Iranians, if serious, need to act collectively throughout, not just in isolated, disorganized groups. Of course it isn’t something that is publicly discussed.
Btw, Merry Christmas!
IMO, for many, their ‘true’ faith has been ‘underground’ for centuries. It is a learned behavior of many Iranians because of the turbulent & eventful post-Islam history of Iran. Though, through generations, some or even many of them may have forgotten..
Yes, the regime is frightened to no end - it knows that at the slightest chance, it’ll be gone & not in a pleasant way, that’s why they’re increasingly more vicious by the day.
Reports from more than 30 cities across Iran indicate a nationwide protest movement with a mix of economic and political demands that could threaten the Khomeinist regime.
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