Sorry, citizen, you aren't going to convince the idiots that freedom means people doing things that they don't like. They believe that somehow being against things that they don't like will be a talisman against bad things happening, and if things they have been told are BAD are made illegal they won't happen ever if the holy unicorn that poops skittles says they won't happen if Barney Frank swears it and makes it so... well then they will be safe from the BAD things! You see, there is a LAW against it that Nancy Pelosi and Chucky Schumer passed and those two said that bad things can't happen if Congress says they can't happen and the omniscient police officer has the power to shoot some poor citizen who was whittling with an evil KNIFE in public; so he can be executed legally without trial because he OFFENDED the holy policeman who can do no wrong because he has the holy badge...
You aren't going to convince these fools that they are national socialists. They are firmly convinced that freedom is exactly what Rudy Guliani said it was. The freedom to OBEY, and naught more. They are the symptom of what ails us, and they don't deserve to occupy the same space as the old, dead, white guys who figured out that we are free, and only the willing serfs can ruin us.
We are surrounded now by serfs. Let us remove them to old Europe where they belong. Because they damn sure don't belong in the land of the FREE!
They tend to make a quick grab at the moral high ground , asserting they are the only real conservatives, and everyone else is a left wing troll.
If we had an FR poll on this case, I suspect they'd find themselves in a tiny minority. I'm sure that would only harden their resolve, but at least the rest of us would be able to point to those poll results whenever one of them divebombs a thread.
First even old Europe understands the difference between sin, which is between you and your God, if you even believe in on, and the criminal code.
the fundamental issue, I believe, is a psychological one. They cannot stand the idea of other folks doing things that might be fun, but they don't allow themselves to indulge in. Sort of like finding out your neighbor three blocks way has open invite, free for all, sex orgies twice weekly. It is far enough away that it is not a personal nuisance, and let us say that the direct neighbors have no problem and may even be particiapnts, but instead the nuisance is the voyeuristic enticement of the whole thing. You cannot stand the notion that someone else might be having some fun. I am about to hear about transmission of STD's and car accidents by drunker revelers, and broken marriages, and a host of ills that follow.
It is an old Calvinist strain that tears our country apart. Ever notice how Eurpeans have high walls around their properties for privacy. Sometimes, in summer, they sunbath NAKED behind those walls. NAKED people out of doors where god and their fairy godmother can SEE them. Ever note that in lots of American neighborhoods you cannot have high fences around your property. WE have a right to see what YOU are up to.