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Census: Fast growth in states with no income tax
Washington Examiner (newspaper) ^ | Michael Barone

Posted on 12/21/2010 5:49:16 PM PST by RatherBiased.com

For those of us who are demographic buffs, Christmas came four days early when Census Bureau director Robert Groves announced on Tuesday the first results of the 2010 census and the reapportionment of House seats (and therefore electoral votes) among the states.

The resident population of the United States, he told us in a webcast, was 308,745,538. That's an increase of 9.7 percent from the 281,421,906 in the 2000 census -- the smallest proportional increase than in any decade other than the Depression 1930s but a pretty robust increase for an advanced nation. It's hard to get a grasp on such large numbers. So let me share a few observations on what they mean.

First, the great engine of growth in America is not the Northeast Megalopolis, which was growing faster than average in the mid-20th century, or California, which grew lustily in the succeeding half-century. It is Texas.

Its population grew 21 percent in the past decade, from nearly 21 million to more than 25 million. That was more rapid growth than in any states except for four much smaller ones (Nevada, Arizona, Utah and Idaho).

Texas' diversified economy, business-friendly regulations and low taxes have attracted not only immigrants but substantial inflow from the other 49 states. As a result, the 2010 reapportionment gives Texas four additional House seats. In contrast, California gets no new House seats, for the first time since it was admitted to the Union in 1850.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; census; texas
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1 posted on 12/21/2010 5:49:18 PM PST by RatherBiased.com
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To: RatherBiased.com

I wonder what the actual numbers are.....the numbers without the illegals.


2 posted on 12/21/2010 5:52:42 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: RatherBiased.com

Now, if we can just retire a few old goats in NY! WEEZIE Slaughter - the mother of “deeming” a bill passed - is first on my list!


3 posted on 12/21/2010 5:53:48 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: RatherBiased.com

So liberals, let’s review. People want to Pay less tax or more?


4 posted on 12/21/2010 5:57:51 PM PST by sappy (criminalibs)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Texas..........4
California...0

I love it!!

5 posted on 12/21/2010 5:59:48 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: Michael.SF.

I think I heard CA is actually -1.


6 posted on 12/21/2010 6:04:19 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

Retired here in Florida.
Ya think I’m moving to any where they want to tax me?
yeah, gonna happen.


7 posted on 12/21/2010 6:08:05 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: RatherBiased.com

They may not have a state income tax but I wonder what the property taxes might be? Are they a lot higher in those states than in those who also have income tax? Just wondering..


8 posted on 12/21/2010 6:08:12 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: celtic gal

I have checked into Texas. Property taxes are VERY high, so they are making up for lack of income tax. So I guess it depends upon your circumstances. Perhaps if you have a high income, it is cheaper to live there due to no state income tax. But if you are retired, or have a modest income, some states with lower property taxes are less expensive to live in.

Living in AZ here — property taxes are low relative to most states I have checked into.


9 posted on 12/21/2010 6:17:46 PM PST by Babu
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To: Michael.SF.

How is your friends and family count on the O/ Any recent defectors? Any think he is not liberal enough?


10 posted on 12/21/2010 6:18:10 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Babu

Texas has a lot of open-borders stinking RINOs like Perry, Kay Bailey and DIABLO Cornyn. FL has the same stinking RINOs like stinking McCain. Kyl is another sell out POS.


11 posted on 12/21/2010 6:19:33 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: celtic gal

Property tax rates for schools are fairly high, but housing is significantly cheaper than it is in high cost states like California and New York. Maximum sales taxes are lower than California, New York or Illinois.

There is a comparison here, but it is not a straight up comparison. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/Advice/PropertyTaxesWhereDoesYourStateRank.aspx

If property tax is your biggest concern, look at Louisiana.


12 posted on 12/21/2010 6:24:54 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Babu

Yes, and in Central Texas (above San Antonio) we protest our property taxes every year. This past year we discovered a new tax: the VIEW TAX. Yes, true, taxed for the “view” you may have. Here in the “Hill Country” there are some nice views, now you can be taxed for that.

So, how can such a tax be decided on, who’s version of a “Nice View” and how much of a tax to impose on said view?

Just thought some of you would like to know. You need to watch these thieves like hawks and never, ever, let them slide.


13 posted on 12/21/2010 6:25:51 PM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: celtic gal

No way! NY has an income tax and still has way out high property tax. Here in Nassau County we pay more than $10,000 per year. And it’s not for a big home with acres of property either. 1/3 acre and 4 bedrooms. Of course you do make more in NY. Then they can call us “RICH” and tax us in addition to the high property, sales and income taxes. Just great here. We’ll be leaving real soon.


14 posted on 12/21/2010 6:27:25 PM PST by King55
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To: celtic gal

Property taxes in TX are fairly high, but the cost of property in TX is very low in most places. Tax rate is not Tax Dollars. You spend dollars not percents.

My property tax on a 3-bdroom brick home that is just under 3,000 sq. feet is under $2,000 per year. What is yours in CA?


15 posted on 12/21/2010 6:32:11 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: brushcop
This past year we discovered a new tax: the VIEW TAX. Yes, true, taxed for the “view” you may have. Here in the “Hill Country” there are some nice views, now you can be taxed for that.

Sounds like a good reason to invest in a few portable outhouses.

They could do double duty as deer feeders...

16 posted on 12/21/2010 6:33:26 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Babu

See my post #15


17 posted on 12/21/2010 6:34:36 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

More data, generated by the gubmint, ignored by the gubmint. A regular one-stop outfit.


18 posted on 12/21/2010 6:35:08 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“My property tax on a 3-bdroom brick home that is just under 3,000 sq. feet is under $2,000 per year. What is yours in CA?

That’s a bargain.

I do not live in CA ... I live in PA. Allegheny County to be precise ... home of the Pittsburgh Steelers and some wannabe minor league baseball team :-)!

I live in a borough where property taxes are nearing 4% of the home’s assessed value. All in all, for a bit UNDER half your size and of similar build quality, I am paying about $3,700 a year. Neat, huh? Property taxes around here are mostly school taxes ... we pay borough (aka local) property taxes, a county property tax, and a school tax with the school tax is pretty much at the outrageous level. I call it the teacher union tax.

I do live in a nice neighborhood, but I estimate that will not be the case in about 15 years. I have this place paid off, so moving won’t be that difficult. I am looking at either Texas (Austin) or Florida (Keys) ... that all depends on how my work goes these next couple of years.

On top of that, we have a 3% state income tax and a 7% sales tax ... not to mention a 1% local tax.

PA, like any state in this union, could be an awesome place to live, work, and play, but its far from that right now!


19 posted on 12/21/2010 6:52:10 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: central_va
I have not heard that, I believe Calif. Will stay even. However, they do have to redistrict to account for internal population shifts, which seems to favor the more conservative central valley. Plus lines are to be drawn by “independents” which hopefully will make gerrymandering a tad more difficult.
20 posted on 12/21/2010 6:52:14 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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