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To: P-Marlowe

Here is what I don’t understand. I am against this wholeheartedly for other reasons, but what I don’t get is, why would someone who knows they are going into combat situations care about whether the dude next to him has a nice ass?

If you are willing to fight and die for your country, I would think sodomy is the last thing someone is interested in. The US military isn’t a dating service. There is a mission and first and foremost that mission has to be followed.

Now my problem with this is twofold. The first is AIDS. I am not going to stick my hands in a wounded soldiers gut, knowing that I can contract a disease and die because of a lifestyle choice.

The second is this is being done to homosexualize the bureaucracy. Just like the municipal unions and other government agencies. You control the infrastructure you control the system.


20 posted on 12/19/2010 8:31:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It is an issue, and will be, because their homosexuality defines them.

If you ever listen to a homosexual describe themselves honestly to someone else, their sexual orientation is always at the top of the list.

I think people who spend time with others in close quarters for extended periods of time care about a lot of things.

Imagine all the dislikes and vendettas people have against each other in the military for a multitude of reasons. Now throw homosexual sex and homosexuality into that situation.

I don’t have a hard time imagining at all various aspects of it that people will have issues with.

But, as I said on other threads, the biggest long term problem here is that this is a part of a concerted efforts by liberals to destroy the military and normalize homosexuality.

Most people don’t understand the threat that open homosexuality poses to security, and it was highlighted in the Wikileaks incident.

Everyone is saying “How did this low level enlisted guy get his hands on so much classified material?” The simple explanation (and usually the right one) is that the security clearance and storage systems are so mangled, underfunded and poorly implemented that if it hadn’t been this guy, it could have been a thousand other people.

But another explanation could be a homosexual affair with someone who had higher clearance, coupled with blackmail. It is probably the oldest trick in the book.

Supporters of repealing DADT maintain that if homosexuality is normalized, this type of vulnerability will disappear because there will be no official stigma associated with it.

The problem with that view is that most people understand homosexuality is a perversion and not a normal, natural situation. Even if it is accepted by some governing agency (like the military) there are ALWAYS going to be people engaging in homosexuality who don’t want anyone to know, their families, friends, workplace, etc.

On a non-security/non-military level, this is simply a great, big, huge wedge, societally and legally, a massive bulldozer by the homosexual community to legitimize homosexuality and homosexual marriage.

If they win on this, every single piece of legislation out there that is viewed as unfair or limiting in some way by homosexual activists will fall like a house of cards, and they damn well know it. It will set a legal precedent for all aspects of society to be forcefully accessible to open homosexuality, from Scoutmasters to the Oval Office.


22 posted on 12/19/2010 8:55:34 AM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"...but what I don’t get is, why would someone who knows they are going into combat situations care about whether the dude next to him has a nice ass?"

Because when a unit is going into combat or on patrol, every thought and every sense must be focused on perceiving the enemy. A moment's hesitation or distraction may make the difference of an adversarial use of deadly force killing a friendly, and worse deciding a battle.

There are many, many, many things which may appear reasonable off the battlefield, which are never allowed anywhere near the deployed station to avoid such distractions to the thinking of the Marine/soldier in combat.

I have no doubt one could rationalize alcohol or drugs on the front lines, claiming those personnel under intense stress needed to relax periodically. On the contrary, the policy of no intoxicants whatsoever reinforces the ability to remain alert at all times in the event of immanent action.

When going into combat, even from the smallest infantry unit, each member has different functions which are reinforced by one another. The thoughts of each member focus upon their duties and having a homosexual in close proximity exposes multiple distractions to a righteous and just soldier/Marine/sailor/airman performing their duties.

Homosexuals are NOT trustworthy, nor faithful. Their entire modus operendi is to satiate their personal desires without respect for their fellow man and in blatant disregard for legality of their criminal behavior. They have honed their skills to hide criminal thinking, decisions and actions from the perceptions of others.

This is why homosexuality has been one of the key disqualifiers for security clearances, not only in the military, but especially in the intelligence community. In the last 20 years they have snuck in and formed clandestine communities ripe for extortion and treasonous behavior. Where they exist, have no doubt there are conspiracies and plots to remain undetected but to subvert the freedoms and legitimate behavior normal life for their personal interpretations of how they want society to live without respecting the majority view.

25 posted on 12/19/2010 9:06:19 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Get ready to see male soldiers holding hands, cupping buttocks, kissing, etc...in uniform.

Get ready to see gay, pink shorts wearing and hair-ribboned loved ones welcoming their soldiers back.

And all of this will lead to a ban on any type of display of affection...which will lead to open acrimony, etc.

Don’t even want to think about the lawsuits and assaults resulting from soldiers (both straight & gay) serving in the foxholes of Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Satan must be throwing a milestone party tonight.


33 posted on 12/19/2010 10:13:27 AM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt-get install Lee Atwater)
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