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To: dhs12345
I have known some very angry atheists. It was as if they had something to prove. And they did it with an intensity that would be considered “fanatic.”

I've never known an angry atheist, as least on a personal basis. They certainly exist...but then, so do angry fanatical believers of all stripes.

The larger point: for a person to say that there isn’t a higher existence takes as much of a leap of faith as person who believes in a higher existence.

I agree, which is why I don't affirmatively deny a higher existence; I just have no belief in it.

It also depends on what you define as a religion, too: 1. organized religion and the dogma and ritual that goes with it or 2. a higher, generalized belief in a “creator.” An observation that the universe and its laws are not random and therefor there is a plan and a planner.

I would tend to prefer the first definition. #2 sounds more like Deism, which is more of a philosophical viewpoint than a religion per se.

96 posted on 12/19/2010 5:57:48 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

Fanatics... I have met a couple. I have met a few fanatical Christians, too.

“I agree, which is why I don’t affirmatively deny a higher existence; I just have no belief in it.”

Interesting. Makes sense. And an important distinction.

So are you an agnostic?


98 posted on 12/19/2010 8:45:13 PM PST by dhs12345
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