Posted on 12/18/2010 6:31:35 AM PST by randita
I dispute that I and the rest of decent people in this State that are outvoted (often fraudulently like this past Governor election) “deserve this”.
At what point is there going to be a revolt out there?
I have in-laws whose whole family is staunch Democrats - wouldn’t think of voting for a Republican. It would be blasphemous-LOL.
They began their married life living close to the city. Little by little, they have moved further and further west as the western suburbs have expanded. If they move again, they’ll be in Wisconsin! Know why they keep moving? I’m sure you do - outrageous property taxes. Through the roof outrageous. Rivaling NJ outrageous.
Yet faithfully they pull the D lever election after election.
I’ve never had the nerve to ask them if they thought it was their civic duty to pony up the taxes THEIR elected officials imposed on them - rather than move away to escape them. LOL
You were incorrect when you said, “The wins mentioned were by squishy RINO’s who would never last anyway.” I know Joe Walsh. He’s pro-tax cuts, pro-spending cuts, pro-life, and pro-gun. His district, the 8th, had conservative republican congressmen, 1961-2005, so he’ll probably win, in 2012.
That was true 10 years ago and resulted in Delaymandering.
It’s not true today.
The Democrats have a floor of 9 seats in Texas (2 in Dallas, 3 in Houston, 1 in San Antonio, 1 in El Paso, and 2 in South Texas along the border).
It’s probably wise to give them a 10th as well in Austin.
To be honest, it wasn’t.
There is a reason the Republicans have an 11-8 seat. What they have now is a Republican gerrymander that Dennis Hastert forced them to draw because he was Speaker of the House.
In anycase, this is probably what happens.
1. Walsh and Dold are thrown into the same district. The rest of their territory becomes a new district.
2. Either Roskam or Biggert is simply eliminated. The other is drowned out by Chicago votes.
3. Schilling gets a ton of Democrats downstate thrown into his district.
At a minimum, its really, really easy for them to turn an 8-11 split into a 11-7 split.
I live in Northfield, in Bob Dold’s district, about three miles north of Jan Schakowsky’s district. In the new map, do you think that I’ll live in Dold’s district or in Schakowsky’s? Who should oppose her, in 2012?
Tough to say. Right now, IL-8 (Shakowsky) and IL-10 (Dold) are split North/South. All they have to do is rotate them to split East/West, and dump 200k Chicago Liberals in Dold’s district.
It won’t matter who runs there. He/she won’t win.
Schakowsky’s district is the 9th. If their districts are rotated to split East/West, neither of them will live in the western district. He lives in Kennilworth, and she lives in Evanston.
If Schakowsky’s district includes Northfield Township, I hope that Brendan Appel or Steve Kim will oppose her.
Well, right. I’m sure they can dig up some state legislative Democrat to run in the West district. Obama will get at least 60% of the vote there.
I think we’re lucking out. Right now they’re talking about crunching Schilling’s district (17th). It’s currently an extremely ugly downstate district meant for a Democrat to win. Personally if I were them, I’d try to throw more Democrats in that district and crunch something else.
That basically leaves 3 downstate districts (Schock, Shimkus, Johnson), the one in the northwest (Manzullo), and Hastert’s old 14th (Hultgren). Between Roskam, Biggert, and Kinzinger, that area can be redrawn into 1 heavily GOP district, 1 eliminated district, and 1 district flooded with Chicago Rats. Joe Walsh in the 8th I think survives too, but they could technically crunch him too if they really want to.
That caps us 7. Dold loses, Biggert Retires, Roskam and Kinzinger are thrown together, and Schock and Schilling are thrown together.
They can really engage in some bs here. Happens due to Brady losing.
Where do you live?
If I were a Democrat, I would hope that they would try to eliminate Illinois’ most conservative congressman, Dan Manzullo. They could give parts of his district to the districts of Walsh, Hultgren, and Schiling. Manzullo would probably retire, and Democrats would think that they can defeat at least two of those other three Republicans, since all three of them will be in their first terms.
If Rep. Biggert retires, who should run for her seat? I hope that State Sen. Dillard would run and that Adam Andrzejewsi would run for Dillard’s state senate seat.
...sort of like Detroit, with fewer slums...(but just give it a little more time).
Coming to an America near you!
I don’t actually live in Illinois.
Fundamentally, there really is no difference between eliminating Manzullo and eliminating Schilling. The map is cleaner though if Schilling goes.
Biggert will likely be thrown in with Roskam, so I guess he will run for her seat.
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