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Mike Huckabee denies backing cap and trade
Politico ^ | Dec. 16, 2010 | Andy Barr

Posted on 12/16/2010 3:06:15 PM PST by La Enchiladita

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To: samtheman
His instinct is to be a socialist.

I think he's more commited to being liked. He'll tell anyone what he thinks they want to hear.

I have to admit he is likable and that is his strong suit but when you examine what he has said and done, he's no conservative. He just wants to be nice.

21 posted on 12/16/2010 3:40:39 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: La Enchiladita
I suppose it depend on what your definition of “backing cap and trade” is.

What a steaming pile of Huckabee!

22 posted on 12/16/2010 3:41:32 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: La Enchiladita

To the Huckster: Liar, liar, pants on fire! Did so!


23 posted on 12/16/2010 3:43:50 PM PST by OB1kNOb (China is now the world's ant. America has become the world's grasshopper. Fear the coming winter.)
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To: La Enchiladita
No. I enjoy tagging you guys out. 99% of the complaint about the Huck is he raised taxes so you'd have roads to get out of the hills and visit town and the school systems from time to time.

Regarding pardoning prisoners, Arkansas has a rather dreadful reputation regarding sticking people in jail. Remember the BLOOD SCANDAL under Clinton ~ you most likely had 10 times the number of innocent people to be pardoned than any state in the union, yet you had them languishing in prison so the state could sell their blood to Canadians.

Gad!

Unless you people can come up with some good reasons for that sort of behavior I and others are forced to presume that the Huck was on the right track ~ and he made a mistake with a pardon for a fellow who continued to deteriorate and killed people long after that pardon. That sort of thing will happen ~ it's the price of being human ~ dealing with people suffering from mental deterioration.

It's like tolerating Joe Biden. He's had brain surgery three times unsuccessfully yet we still treat him like he's the Vice President.

Gack!

24 posted on 12/16/2010 3:45:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Huck not only raised taxes, and supported cap and trade, and pardoned dangerous criminals; he also said it was “Unchristian” to deny illegal aliens benefits.

Apparently this idiot thinks that Christian duty is fulfilled by government action.

So much for “render unto Caesar”.


25 posted on 12/16/2010 3:56:57 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Well, in fact, it probably is "unChristian" to turn away the "stranger in your land" ~ and the Huck, and many others, have the Bible quotes close at hand.

Frankly, the majority of Christians in this country use that part (called the Old Testament) as advisory in nature ~ not as definitive.

We adhere to our obligations under treaties with other nations. Mexico doesn't.

That's how we run this world BTW ~ with treaties ~ and a lot of those countries do not have Jesus in charge.

I think the Huck has probably reconsidered his earlier error in applying Baptist theology to a moral question where the rest of us look at it differently (except for the Roman Catholics, etc.).

26 posted on 12/16/2010 4:03:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
It is idiotic to presume that our nation is here to fulfill anyones Christian duty in regards to charity (the liberal delusion), proselytizing (Un-Constitutional), or passivity (’turn the other cheek’ is not our national perogative).

A stranger in your land is one thing, and we have many here legally that work and make their life here in the USA; an illegal invader is something else.

So he has “probably reconsidered”? Yes, based upon maintaining the pretense of electability, no doubt Hucabee has “reconsidered” a great many things.

The guy is a simpleton, a liberal, and a charlatan.

27 posted on 12/16/2010 4:22:07 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: La Enchiladita

The proper term is HuckaHillbilly.

They are thick here in Iowa.


28 posted on 12/16/2010 4:31:56 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: allmendream
Naw, he's not a simpleton ~ his original statement on c&p that has you jumping up and down soiling your pants over, is rather clever.

He said one thing, and you went away thinking it was support for the Carbon Credits technique.

He didn't support Carbon Credits.

Since I've already demonstrated what he did say I don't think we need to belabor the point.

29 posted on 12/16/2010 4:38:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: La Enchiladita
Our potential candidates Mike Huckabee John Thune Mitt Romney Jeb Bush NewtGingrich Mitch Daniels Sarah Palin Mike Pence. The field keeps narrowing itself.
30 posted on 12/16/2010 4:38:23 PM PST by excopconservative
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To: allmendream

Regarding the “liberal delusion”, I think you have a doctrinal dispute with people in other churches. Take it up with them, not me.


31 posted on 12/16/2010 4:39:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: La Enchiladita

The media is trying to build Huck, Newt and Mitt up. When these guys attack Obama and the dems (practically never) we can use them. But the media is going to try and help ease them into the nomination. Then the next day, if their plan works, they will talk about Huck’s pardons or the dog lynching, Newt’s divorces and Mitt’s flip-flopping. In a way Sarah is the most insulated from all of that.


32 posted on 12/16/2010 4:41:00 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: La Enchiladita

I told yall he was a lying preacherman snakeoil salesman... and he is. Can’t hide from your own words in today’s world... unless you are imam hussein obama.

LLS


33 posted on 12/16/2010 4:45:29 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: muawiyah
“I also support cap and trade of carbon emissions. And I was disappointed that the Senate rejected a carbon counting system to measure the sources of emissions, because that would have been the first and the most important step toward implementing true cap and trade.” Huckabee

THAT is “rather clever”??? He is disappointed they rejected it because it didn't go far enough towards counting carbon in order to cap it (”I also support cap and trade of carbon emissions”).

You seem to think that his demand that they count it was some sort of Machiavellian “poison pill” that was going to make it indigestible?

In legislation, snuck in, perhaps - that is playing Chess.

A comment from Huckabee is taken for what it is, a statement of where HE stands and that is FIRMLY on the side of COUNTING carbon, and CAPPING carbon, and TRADING carbon.

All for something that looks more and more like it is just a growing urban heat island effect (and rampant data manipulation) amid an actual (but slight) Global cooldown in temperatures.

34 posted on 12/16/2010 4:46:04 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: muawiyah
Huckabee seems to think the duty of Government is to fulfill Christian duties such as repentance (his pardons) charity (his tax increases) kindness (”Unchristian” to deny illegal aliens benefits).

This is not a delusion that is the purview of a particular doctrine, it is a widespread delusion among big government progressives like Huckabee.

As someone said, Huckabee is what a Democrat would be if they still allowed Christians in their party.

He is the kind of Republican who could get elected in Arkansas amid lopsided Democrat government.

35 posted on 12/16/2010 4:51:13 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
You are mixing a number of issues together. However, the Obamaista C&P was a "carbon credits" scheme that relied only on "negotiated" value of Carbon Emissions.

There's never been an approach developed that measures the carbon going "in".

See the difference? One side is "out" and the other side is "in".

Most of these politicians don't have the time like you and I to RESEARCH these matters. BTW, if you're concerned with my "NO AGW" integrity, let me pass on to you the secret handshake in the matter ~ when the Ice begins to accrete on Baffin Island, prepare for the next Ice Age. It's already 5,000 years over due, but the last half dozen of them STARTED THERE! Keep your eyes open.

36 posted on 12/16/2010 4:57:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: allmendream
Among the duties or responsibilities or privileges of Governors and Presidents is the making of pardons and commutations!

Are you now suggesting that all of our constitutions in this country are WRONG!

If so I see your life's work ahead of you ~ kind of like Alf Landon the eternal Presidential candidate.

37 posted on 12/16/2010 5:24:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Either way he was for COUNTING carbon, TRADING carbon, and CAPPING carbon. And now he lies about it.

Hard to spin that away, no matter how hard you try.

And my argument isn't against the provision of the Executive pardon, it was Huckabee’s rampant disregard for public safety and his preference to feel good about his own Christian forgiveness.

38 posted on 12/16/2010 5:34:34 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Look, the Leftwingtards never came up with anything except negotiating Carbon Credits and "estimating", not counting, output.

It was designed to defraud.

Don't you understand, the Leftwingtards don't care if there's too much, too little or just the right amount of carbon in the atmosphere.

They prefer whatever is the least accountable method to impose that enables them to steal the most stuff and bother the most people.

It's not about CARBON.

You'll find Republicans saying a variety of things about C&P but it's usually always about the measurement method.

Again, Democrats don't want a measurement method ~ they want to "negotiate" this stuff.

If you thought this actually involved global warming, or climate change, or anything like that you grossly underestimate the corruption of the Democrats.

You'll never go wrong looking for theft in anything they produce.

Oh, yeah, and this evening after finding they'd front loaded the Omnibus spending bill with almost $400 million for Planned Parenthood to kill babies Hairy Reed finally pulled it. Doesn't mean he cares about babies ~ just that somebody tried to slip $400 million past him that he could have redirected to counting sand in Nevada!

39 posted on 12/16/2010 5:44:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
This isn't about Democrats.

This is about Huckabee and his support for Cap and Trade (and Count) of carbon during his failed 2008 candidacy. He said “to put it simply, that is just not true.” but he is hung by his own words and ALL of the accounts at that time that he did indeed (although he was soon to back away from and finally to flipflop) support Cap and Trade.

He supported it, now he lies about it, while calling out the source that was accurate as being untrue!

That takes some real Gall! I will give the guy that!

40 posted on 12/16/2010 5:48:58 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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