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Video shows Anaheim liquor store clerk pulling gun on armed robbers(CA)
latimesblogs.latimes.com ^ | 15 December, 2010 | NA

Posted on 12/16/2010 4:01:24 AM PST by marktwain

Surveillance video released by the Anaheim Police Department shows a liquor store clerk pulling a gun in self-defense during an armed robbery.

Two men walked into AC Liquor Store and Mini Market in the 1100 block of South State College Boulevard about 11 p.m. on Dec. 4, said Sgt. Rick Martinez of the Anaheim Police Department.

One of them, wearing a light-gray hooded sweatshirt, pulled out a what appeared to be a handgun and demanded cash, while the second man walked to the back of the store to grab two cases of beer.

The store clerk pulled out his own gun when the armed robber became distracted with retrieving the money on the counter, Martinez said.

“The clerk recognized he had a small window of opportunity,” Martinez said. “He was armed and pointed his handgun in self-defense.” The two men fled in what may have been a small dark pickup truck with a small amount of cash and two cases of beer, Martinez said.

The men were described as Latinos in their early 20s, one weighing about 200 pounds and the other with a slim build, Martinez said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; defense; robber
Deciding to shoot/not shoot is difficult.
1 posted on 12/16/2010 4:01:31 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

whoa - he had the drop on the punk and didn’t shoot. Not sure what I would have done but once my gun was aimed at his face...


2 posted on 12/16/2010 4:08:21 AM PST by corkoman
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To: marktwain

He who hesitates is lost...


3 posted on 12/16/2010 4:14:50 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: marktwain

illegals.........????...naw, just locals who like beer,I suspect the next time, and there will be a next time, someone’s is going to die.


4 posted on 12/16/2010 4:25:21 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: marktwain

Darn Amish running amok again.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 4:32:50 AM PST by bikerman (Where Has My America Gone?)
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To: marktwain

> Deciding to shoot/not shoot is difficult.
The clerk is an idiot. He should have killed the gunman when he caught him off guard. He had no way of knowing the gunman would run. He should have opted for the safest option, i.e., a dead armed robber.


6 posted on 12/16/2010 4:47:43 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Exactly! In a situation such as he was in (gun pointed at him), you don’t pull your gun unless you are going to pull the trigger and KILL the person who is threatening you!


7 posted on 12/16/2010 5:35:40 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: BuffaloJack
re: should have killed the gunman when he caught him off guard

Absolutely! You are exactly on point when you say the clerk had no idea what the criminal might do. I consider that clerk damned luck to be alive. I wonder if he knows how close he probably came to being a dead clerk.

I guess it will sound cruel or cold or whatever to the gun-hating crowd for us to say the clerk should have fired without hesitation, but in that brief moment when two armed men are face to face the clerk made a mistake, a mistake that could have cost him his life.

8 posted on 12/16/2010 6:15:50 AM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: marktwain

So why did he not shoot the guy?!?!?!?!? If you are going to point a gun at someone pointing a gun at you, you really should pull the trigger. The clerk is extremely fortunate the hoodie didn’t pull his own trigger.


9 posted on 12/16/2010 6:30:39 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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At the risk of over analyzing, take a look at the clerks trigger finger. Safely pointed forward and off the trigger. He even seems to realize he’s pointing a loaded gun at somebody and pulls away! In a stress situation we do as we train. The guy has good handing skills and those are what took over in the heat of the moment.

I don’t advocate bad gun handling, but I think the guy has never thought about any of the ‘What Ifs’ of having a firearm ready for use, carried or on the shelf.

We can’t often sacrifice safe handling, but we can think ahead and ponder what if this, or what if that. I’ve often thought about a gun pointed at me, and like the clerk I’d be handing over cash in the traditional you say “Jump” I answer “How high?” mode. Beyond that, I’ve firmly put it into my head that should the chance offer itself that I can pull my own gun, in my mind anyway, the trigger will be pulled.

Never having had the chance to prove the theory it remains that. But I have good confidence that it will work.


10 posted on 12/16/2010 7:52:28 AM PST by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: BuffaloJack
The clerk is an idiot. He should have killed the gunman when he caught him off guard. He had no way of knowing the gunman would run. He should have opted for the safest option, i.e., a dead armed robber.

Plus think about the two different messages sent to would-be robbers. Had he shot, he'd have probably been robbery-proof for five years. This way, he's probably MORE likely than the average store to get robbed, cause they know he doesn't want to shoot first.

11 posted on 12/16/2010 7:58:14 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: kAcknor
Needs repeating!

At the risk of over analyzing, take a look at the clerks trigger finger. Safely pointed forward and off the trigger. He even seems to realize he’s pointing a loaded gun at somebody and pulls away! In a stress situation we do as we train. The guy has good handing skills and those are what took over in the heat of the moment.

12 posted on 12/16/2010 10:58:19 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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