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Could there be a Tet Offensive in Afghanistan? (George Will)
Washington Post ^ | December 15, 2010 | George F. Will

Posted on 12/15/2010 7:03:51 PM PST by Pan_Yan

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Although it is unlikely that the Taliban leadership has as nuanced an understanding of the importance and dynamics of American public opinion in wartime as North Vietnam's leadership did, Taliban leaders surely know that North Vietnam won the Vietnam War not in Vietnam but in America.

And they surely know the role played by North Vietnam's February 1968 Tet Offensive. Although U.S. forces thoroughly defeated the enemy, the American public, seeing only chaos and the prospect of many more years of it, turned decisively against the war.

Might the Taliban's tactics, techniques and procedures (in military argot, TTP) make possible a spike in violence in some way comparable to Tet in its impact on American opinion? No one knows this, or how another attack on America, perhaps launched from Yemen, might affect public support for what are explained as prophylactic operations in Afghanistan.

Twenty-three months after the apotheosis of Barack Obama as herald of a durable liberal era, Washington's conversations are conducted in conservatism's vocabulary - retrenching, economizing and generally limiting government. Liberals watching the extension of the George W. Bush tax rates, the continuation of Bush's creation at Guantanamo and the escalation of a war Bush began in Afghanistan are increasingly dyspeptic.

Twenty-three months from now, Obama will have been reelected, or not. The outcome depends partly on whether the party's left, which provides a disproportionate portion of the party's energy, is energized. On Election Day 2012, what already is America's longest war will be in its 12th year.

Whatever one thinks of the current strategy in this war, Obama is prosecuting it with a vigor that indicates a refusal to allow political calculations to condition national security policy. This presidential virtue could imperil his presidency.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; obama; taliban; tet
Obama is prosecuting it with a vigor that indicates a refusal to allow political calculations to condition national security policy.

George Will has lost his mind.

1 posted on 12/15/2010 7:03:57 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
Will is out of his mind if he thinks Obama is prosecuting anything with a vigor other than the destruction of America's armed forces as we know them. There are things going on in a friend's deployed unit that are mind-bogglingly ridiculous, and I can't believe they are not very, very intentional- and that they have come down from pretty high up in the chain.

And George... if they hadn't already thought about Tet, thanks for the reminder.

Mr. niteowl77

2 posted on 12/15/2010 7:14:58 PM PST by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I do mind them stewing me in their own juices.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Won’t work. The commie loving Walter Crankcase is dead so he can’t spew their lies to the American public. Crankcase mini-me, Little Danny Rather, has zero credibility and is busy pimping his new “book”. Of course, the Taliban me bananas might be able to strike a deal with Olbermann and Special Ed Schultz to pimp their cause.


3 posted on 12/15/2010 7:15:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

plus they don’t have the stuff to pull it off. The numbers and discipline of the Taliban is a joke compared to the NVA/Vietcong. They can try, but it will be very pathetic.

We can complain about the rules of engagement, but we also learned some important lessons in Vietnam which are being applied in Afghanistan.


4 posted on 12/15/2010 7:21:37 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: FlingWingFlyer

plus they don’t have the stuff to pull it off. The numbers and discipline of the Taliban is a joke compared to the NVA/Vietcong. They can try, but it will be very pathetic.

We can complain about the rules of engagement, but we also learned some important lessons in Vietnam which are being applied in Afghanistan.


5 posted on 12/15/2010 7:21:44 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: niteowl77

“And George... if they hadn’t already thought about Tet, thanks for the reminder.”

Don’t worry, George isn’t well read in Afghanistan either.


6 posted on 12/15/2010 7:22:20 PM PST by jpf (http://flood-mybigmouth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pan_Yan

I guess George hasn’t read “This Time We Win:Revisiting the Tet Offensive” by James S. Robbins.

Discussed on a previous thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2599044/posts


7 posted on 12/15/2010 7:24:20 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: bioqubit
We can complain about the rules of engagement, but we also learned some important lessons in Vietnam which are being applied in Afghanistan.

You and I might have learned them. The military as a whole might have learned them. The CinC is a socialist, and they never learn. They want Vietnam. They want us to lose. Obama has shown himself to be at best disinterested in Afghanistan, finding it a nuisance. At worst, he is a traitor by intent.

8 posted on 12/15/2010 7:29:03 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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Although U.S. forces thoroughly defeated the enemy,...

George, You need a dope slap. Sure, we killed a lot of them in the North. But they were swarming all over the south as we retreated. That's not thoroughly except at the hands of the blue-blood's cheerleader commentators.

9 posted on 12/15/2010 7:39:47 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: jpf
Don’t worry, George isn’t well read in Afghanistan either.

LOL! I may have overestimated the number of Pashtun-speakers who follow major league baseball buffs.

Mr. niteowl77

10 posted on 12/15/2010 7:54:46 PM PST by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I do mind them stewing me in their own juices.)
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Although U.S. forces thoroughly defeated the enemy, the American public, seeing only chaos and the prospect of many more years of it, turned decisively against the war.

Thanks largely to that dead lying scumbag "Uncle" Walter Cronkite.

11 posted on 12/15/2010 8:00:01 PM PST by Lancey Howard (Pray for 3/5.)
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On Election Day 2012, what already is America's longest war will be in its 12th year.

The Indian Wars lasted over a century.

12 posted on 12/15/2010 8:14:16 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Pan_Yan

As someone who was involved in the TET offensive, I’m thinking a TET is maybe what we need - under the following conditions: 1) No embeds. 2) Same ROE as Vietnam. 3) we are allowed to pursue the enemy across any border till we kill them all. 4) No US military personnel will be subject ot persecution by a non-US body / court. Let’s end this damn war as we know how to end it and still have the means to do so.


13 posted on 12/15/2010 8:14:48 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Dapper 26

Sounds good. Now all you have to do is talk Obama into it. And the flag officers who got appointed by Clinton.


14 posted on 12/15/2010 8:18:29 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

That’s the rub.


15 posted on 12/15/2010 8:25:30 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
But they were swarming all over the south as we retreated.

The Tet offensive was a slaughter. The reason the NV were able to "swarm" all over the south is because the Democrats in Congress cut off funding for South Vietnam.

16 posted on 12/15/2010 10:38:17 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Pan_Yan

And, who will play the role of Walter Cronkite?

George Will?


17 posted on 12/16/2010 5:15:26 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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