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Man killed by Long Beach police was holding a water nozzle, not a gun, police say
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-long-beach-shooting-20101214,0,2734214.story ^ | 14 December, 2010 | Nardine Saad

Posted on 12/15/2010 6:28:43 PM PST by marktwain

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To: dragnet2

I agree wholeheartedly, There was a time about 40 years ago when I respected the Police, Now I would Never believe anything a cop ever said.


41 posted on 12/15/2010 7:43:56 PM PST by eyeamok (what this man was doing a crime.)
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To: cavador; anglian
Why are you people posting images of toy weapons and images that appears as zip guns?

This young man had nothing but a garden nozzle with a squeeze lever...

42 posted on 12/15/2010 7:45:40 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: dragnet2

AMEN and AMEN!!!!!!!!!


43 posted on 12/15/2010 7:47:03 PM PST by sport
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To: marktwain

The vic’s fault for thinking he could get drunk and play with a water nozzle on his own property....


44 posted on 12/15/2010 7:47:47 PM PST by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: freebilly

Our fault for thinking this is still the country we grew up in....


45 posted on 12/15/2010 7:48:57 PM PST by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: freebilly
This certainly is not our parents America.

Compared to what we have today, they lived in paradise.

46 posted on 12/15/2010 7:50:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: eyeamok

I also agree, cops nowadays are out of control. And I worked with cops for many years.


47 posted on 12/15/2010 7:51:11 PM PST by roadcat
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To: eyeamok

Interesting.


48 posted on 12/15/2010 7:52:38 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: freebilly

Yeah. That is mistake number 1.


49 posted on 12/15/2010 7:53:13 PM PST by sport
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To: marktwain
I hear the cell next to Meserle is vacant.........
50 posted on 12/15/2010 7:54:33 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: roadcat

I still work with a lot of retired cops on a regular basis, and they are the good ones for the most part, and most if not all agree with me on this and a lot of things.


51 posted on 12/15/2010 7:55:44 PM PST by eyeamok (what this man was doing a crime.)
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To: dragnet2
This certainly is not our parents America. Compared to what we have today, they lived in paradise.

I have mixed feelings on that. Growing up in the 50's and early 60's you would never hear about a cop killing unless it was in your neighbor hood. One of my good friend's father was a police captain. We heard some horror stories about cops. We knew who were the mean ones and which would help you out. If there was a wife beater, she couldn't call the cops. She had to work it out herself or with the help of her family. And Lord help you if you were of the wrong color.

52 posted on 12/15/2010 7:57:55 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: freebilly

Thank You ! Finally a voice of reason.


53 posted on 12/15/2010 7:59:10 PM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: SeeSac

Good olde SeeSac, Defender of the Blue Line.


54 posted on 12/15/2010 8:01:13 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: marktwain

Lots of Paperwork on this one.


55 posted on 12/15/2010 8:03:19 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: driftdiver; The Comedian

This story opened up a whole new level of understanding why Russians love vodka... and reaffirms my suspicion that alcohol-production would be an excellent investment for the troubling times that are ahead.


56 posted on 12/15/2010 8:06:49 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeeSac
This certainly is not our parents America. Compared to what we have today, they lived in paradise.

I have mixed feelings on that.

Ya do?

Did the cops look like the military in the 50s and treat free people like escaped enemy?

Ever hear of a drive-by shooting in the 50s?

How about government in debt to the tune of 15 trillion?

Remember Charlie Manson?

In today's America we've got Charlie Manson crimes *daily* and much worse....

In today's America, we've been over run with tens of millions in this country illegally...

I could go on and on, and on, but I'm bumming myself out.

57 posted on 12/15/2010 8:09:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Wiggins
Lots of Paperwork on this one.

So an innocent citizen is gunned down by trigger-happy cops on private property who can't even take the time to announce their presence and you state something so curt and insensitive? Shame on you.

Shouldn't you be watching Hawaii 5-O or NCIS or some other cop groupie show, Wiggins?

58 posted on 12/15/2010 8:11:06 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Wiggins
Lots of Paperwork on this one.

You bet...Just trying to get their reports to be consistent, and explain how they thought a garden nozzle was a gun will take 20 or so pages...

Add another 8 pages explaining when standing behind walls and pillars with shotguns, the didn't have time to say, "Police, drop the gun"

59 posted on 12/15/2010 8:15:27 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: marktwain

It is a no hassle way to get their union contract benefits fulfilled.


60 posted on 12/15/2010 8:21:08 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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