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To: Sola Veritas; Jim Robinson; All
Destroying LTC Lakin has done NOTHING to enforce military discipline, it has only made holding a commission meaningless and further degraded the concept of the POTUS being CINC since he/she is somehow magically removed from the process?

I think even Mr. Robinson made clear the other day that following orders is the foundation of military discipline. The statutory authority by which orders must be obeyed is well-established and derives directly from the Constitution. It's not new, and Judge Lind articulated it correctly. It's willful ignorance to deny the clear letter of the law obvious to anyone versed in it.

What you propose is that individual military officers get to personally vet a duly elected President certified by Congress to see if he, and ultimately any other officers in the military, deserve their loyalty and obedience. That's radically anti-Constitutional. If you think that's how our system of government is established, that the military officer's oath can override the roles and responsibilities defined in the Constitution and statutes enacted thereof, then you have a poor understanding of the Constitution, the intent of the Founding Fathers and the military.

And, again, if you think anything going on with Lakin is equivalent to the SS and Nazi death camps, you are a hysterical fool at best. I'd try and explain to you why morally based legal systems have laws in the first place, with all their inevitable imperfections, but I'd clearly be wasting my time.

371 posted on 12/16/2010 10:53:27 AM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative; All

“I think even Mr. Robinson made clear the other day that following orders is the foundation of military discipline. The statutory authority by which orders must be obeyed is well-established and derives directly from the Constitution. It’s not new, and Judge Lind articulated it correctly. It’s willful ignorance to deny the clear letter of the law obvious to anyone versed in it.”

Of course following orders is the foundation of military discipline. You state the obvious. Where Lind is wrong is circumventing the truth that the ultimate authority for all military orders are derived from the POTUS via the constitution. A tainted POTUS taints all. This has been discussed over and over. The plain truth is that when I was reappointed a commissioned officer in the reserve several years ago, under President Bush, my appointment orders were in the name and authority of the POTUS. When I was subsequently promoted, the orders were in the name and authority of the POTUS. The person sitting in that chair cannot be excluded from accountability of legitimate status anymore than I can.


388 posted on 12/16/2010 12:02:07 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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