Posted on 12/14/2010 8:17:10 PM PST by FS11
I agree.
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/update20101214.html
Today at his Court-Martial, Army LTC Terry Lakin pled guilty to four specifications of refusing to obey lawful orders, one of which was then dismissed as duplicative. In so doing, he stood before Judge Lind and over and over told her that he was wrong to have disobeyed his orders, which were lawful.
He then pled not guilty to the most severe charge against him, missing the movement of US Air Flight 1123 on 12 April 2010. His sole defense to that charge will be that he was never ordered to board that flight, but instead that his orders required him to report to Ft. Campbell, KY and did not specify the means of transportation.
One wonders if there wasn’t some “behind the scenes” deal. This really could have hurt Zero. If Lakin gets a “wrist slap” we will know. If he gets screwed he would have been better off seeing it through.
One wonders if there wasn’t some “behind the scenes” deal. This really could have hurt Zero. If Lakin gets a “wrist slap” we will know. If he gets screwed he would have been better off seeing it through.
22 posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:46:21 PM by wastoute
I wondered the same thing.
This is really too bad but did any of us truly think it would turn out with any resolution to the question of eligibility. The fix was in at least back in 2006, if not back to when he first submitted foreign aid scholarships.
Beyond that, they got one specification dismissed and are contesting another on a technicality based in precedent that has a legitimate chance of flying. Recognizing that any military judge would have ruled as Judge Lind did, Puckett is making the best he can of a weak hand. He is doing what he can for his client, which is his job.
A very sad day.I cannot say I would have acted different under his circumstance.In the test of wills Judge Lind won. She held
all the cards in that Court.She determined she would protect her CINC and confine her Court to the orders issued -allowing No defense. The issue of eligibility remains. And will I am
not convinced that the Orders issued were lawful as the President so clearly cannot claim to be a Natural born citizen-and as he is the weakest link in the chain of command.
Problem is the entire weight of the US Government would prefer to prefer to defend ANY corruption -and protect the status quo.So “we the people” lose again. I guess we got the evil Administration we deserve.
He pled guilty to four specifications of Refusing to obey a lawful order and not guilty only to “missing movement” his defense there being he was not specifically ordered to that flight—only to Ft.Campbell Ky. He repeatedly said he was sorry he had disobeyed “lawful”orders— I don’t see how anybody could pull an appeal out of his surrender.hat a sad -sad day.
enlisted are administered a much different Oath of Service.
Officers are under Oath to defend the US Constitution and our way of life against all enemies foreign or domestic.The Officers Oath does not exclude any enemy be they appointed
President -and an Enemy to our constitution and way of life—
or any other enemy foreign or domestic. Lakin honored his Oath going into the Lind Court. But for whatever reason surrenderded to the will of the Court.
The Constitution is a written instrument.As such its meaning does not alter.That which it meant when it was adopted -it means now.”Justice David Brewer for the US supreme Court,1905
South Carolina v. the United States. IMO every Officer is
administered the same Oath. And the argument I have heard makes sense in that they are to exercise discretion in how they honor the Oath. Otherwise we would be as the Germans
under Adolf Hitler. Otherwise William Calley would Not have been punished under the provisions of the UCMJ.Wm.Calley was
following orders.
I do not share your hope of “big changes” The history of American Government is such that when Republicans have control over one or more of the Houses changes are small and most often ineffective.When Democrats control both Houses and the
Executive they can and usually do -do Much harm to our Constitution and our way of life. (if one is governed by the stuffed suits in Sodom(Washington D.C.) America has become Rome in our decline.We are distracted by the bread and the games while our system of government is so AIDS ridden and
cancer ridden it is repugnant.
Every single one of us is to blame. We allowed the Media to get us all riled up over Hillary that Obama snaked in. Not one person, even at the lowest level questioned Obama’s NBC and the BC has nothing to do with it........he is a dual citizen which automatically makes him ineligible to be President!!!! There is a reason whey the Constitution expressly says that the President and VP MUST be a NBC!!! Those are the only 2 offices in the government that require that!!
To: usmcobra
Got news for you. Military officers do not have quite the luxury of picking and choosing which orders to follow. If they fail to obey on grounds that an order is unlawful, then they’d best be lawyered up and if found in the wrong, they’ll have plenty of time to think about it.
Lakin was making a political protest based on conspiracy theory. Not a wise move.
We may not like it, bur Obama IS the President of the United States and the Commander-in-chief. And the war is authorized by the United States Congress. Do not ask our military officers to get caught up in political conspiracy theory.
181 posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:46:08 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2642492/posts?page=181#181
“This is the first time I have heard that embarrassment was a legitimate reason for excluding evidence in a trial. I thought that’s what trials are all about, showing evidence and revealing truth. “
Doesn’t help to misquote the judge. A military court, convened by a military officer, is not the proper venue for challenging the status of a sitting President. This case was always about politics, not law - which is why Lakin, facing sentencing, decided to switch to a lawyer who would try to minimize the sentence received.
The American People have a responsibility to vet anyone applying for office, and the other candidates can challenge the qualification, and the Congress can listen to and decide any challenge. A military court cannot.
Well, panthermom. I don’t think that is exactly true. Not many of us had ever heard of Obama or his birth certificate. I noticed something was really wrong when John McCain became the Republican nominee. This was a planned election and not by us.
It could be argued that a military blindly acting under the orders of an ineligible CinC is already in chaos.
We need serious conservatives to fix things.
How many lawyers do we have in political positions? Not one for the local to the federal level ever thought to question his NBC status! I can tell you why nobody would touch it, it was because he was half black! We have relinquished the Constitution to the laws of PC and fear.
We either abide by the Constitution or we change it. There are many here that think that Bobby Jindal would make a great President, yet he is not an NBC either.
I wish it was his NBC status pertaining to his father not being a citizen that people were going after instead of the BC.
They probably know all about it. Like I said, this was a planned election where Obama and McCain were selected; not elected. Obama being half black is only an excuse. I don’t even think about it anymore. It doesn’t matter what color he is and really never has. He is a front and a fool at that. It is clear is not was placed in the position to run the country. It’s all about a lot of PR now. Now those are some people we should be looking at. Heck, the CEOs don’t even have to know what their company is about anymore. PR takes care of that. At one point it was the bean counters;; now it’s PR.
However, we are wide awake now.
Oh, and I am not interested in Bobby Jindal.
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