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To: mills044; butterdezillion

Well and beautifully stated, mills!

Butter, you are truly a noble warrior for truth,
relentless in its pursuit. God bless you.


490 posted on 12/14/2010 7:18:45 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

I freepmailed this to someone and then to a couple of more people and someone asked why not post it to the thread, so I am.

Among conservatives (leaving aside the 0bot toadies), there are two camps (according to this division I’m discussing, surely there are other ways to divide):

1. Those who think that somehow things will muddle along, pretty much as they’ve always done, maybe get a bit worse, a bit better, hopefully a lot better. Gradually, gradually - maybe next time an R president who’s more conservative will help straighten things out, or maybe one who isn’t, but then maybe the time after that things will improve. The various crises will pass, get resolved, or just sort of drift along and effects will dissolve, and be in the past almost forgotten, just like all of Clintoon’s horrorshows and previous crises. (Of course, China wouldn’t have the technology it has now were it not for Clinton’s treason....)

This group cannot foresee the end of our Replublic, a huge war, or widespread extreme devastation of any kind. Things could get “really” bad but not collapse, they’ll improve again, it’s all relative. Our Republic just can’t get destroyed - because - it just won’t happen.

2. The second group thinks that utter destruction of our Republic not only could happen, it can happen - and is happening right now. The enemy within (no doubt helped by the enemy without) is feverishly and busily working on destroying what is good about our country - what is left of what is good - right now, right this minute.

These enemies are driven by a passionate fervor, and just hoping they’ll go away means utter defeat for all that is good. Pretending that they either don’t mean and plan utter destruction, or that they’re weak or foolish (they are foolish but that’s beside the point), or that they’re somehow “destined” to lose, is the way to ensure that we fail and they win.

There are so many crises about to hit - already hitting - some just happenstance (inasmuch as any human influenced or caused situation can be happenstance) or nefarious plan - that one can hardly count them.

I think we are in some of the most dire times in the known history of the world. That so many here on FR scorn such concerns as tinfoil nuttery, conspiracy theories and so on is very disheartening.

Anyway, /rant off!

Ultimately - I am convinced without a shred of doubt that the Supreme Lord is ultimately in charge; He gives us our free will, and when that free will becomes so misused it becomes a sort of critical mass, He will by one way or another, arrange something. What or how - that’s His job, not mine. But whatever is in the future, I think it is a rough road to get to the other side. (And I’m just talking about this world of course.)

sigh....


493 posted on 12/14/2010 7:23:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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