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Obama Administration making plans to take over the 401(k)s to bail out their union backers
Tea Party ^ | October 12, 2010 | Elizabeth T

Posted on 12/14/2010 5:26:27 AM PST by IbJensen

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Government prepares to seize private pension. What else did you expect from socialist and communists?

Paul Joseph Watson Infowars.com October 12, 2010

The government is preparing to seize the private 401(k) pensions of millions of Americans while enforcing an additional 5 per cent payroll tax as part of a new bailout program that will empower the Social Security Administration to redistribute pension funds in a frightening example of big government gone wild.

Public pension plans have been so aggressively looted already by the government that cities and counties face a $574 billion funding gap, according to a CNBC report.

That black hole is set to be filled by a new proposal that will “fairly” distribute taxpayer-funded pensions to everyone, by confiscating the private wealth of millions of Americans. Its proponents express staggering arrogance in thinking that they can just steal money people have worked for decades to accrue as if it’s their own.

Not only would the government confiscate 401(k) pensions, it would also impose a mandatory 5 per cent payroll tax payable by everyone, according to a hearing chaired last week by Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee.

“This would, of course, be a sister government ponzi scheme working in tandem with Social Security, the primary purpose being to give big government politicians additional taxpayer funds to raid to pay for their out-of-control spending,” writes Connie Hair.

The hearing was a platform for advocates of Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (GRAs), a program authored by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York. Back in November 2008, Ghilarducci testified to Congress that 401(k)s and IRAs should be confiscated and converted into universal Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (GRAs) managed by the Social Security Administration.

“You don’t hold hearings on something you don’t intend to do,” points out the Market Ticker blog. “I hate it when I’m right. I hate it even more when tens of millions of Americans are going to get reamed to pay for the crimes of the handful on Wall Street, and their crony enablers in Washington DC.”

The GRAs would be enforced by means of a mandatory savings tax equating to 5 per cent of an individual’s annual paycheck deposited to the GRA. Social Security and Medicare taxes would still be payable, employers would no longer would be able to write off their contributions and capital gains would be taxable year-on-year. In addition, workers could bequeath only half of their account balances to their heirs, unlike full balances from existing 401(k) and IRA accounts.

During a Seattle radio interview in October 2008, Ghilarducci explained the motive behind the plan, stating, “I’m just rearranging the tax breaks that are available now for 401(k)s and spreading – spreading the wealth” (emphasis mine).

However, as we painfully learned in the immediate aftermath of the original $700 million dollar bailout, which was originally sold on the basis that it would be used to pay off bad debt, governments that propose “spreading the wealth” under socialist-style financial reforms almost always collect the wealth under the pretext of being the saviors before greedily hoarding it all for themselves.

The GRA program is being pushed by the Economic Policy Institute, an organization housed on the third floor of the building occupied by the George Soros-funded Center for American Progress. The Center for American Progress is a think tank headed by Bill Clinton’s former chief of staff John D. Podesta, who was also head of Barack Obama’s presidential transition team after the 2008 election.

In preparing to seize private pensions, the United States is going the same way as Argentinean government, which in 2008 nationalized the country’s private pension plans, known as AFJPs, confiscating the wealth of millions.

“We have no doubt that here the right to private property is being violated. Not just for us but for society and the world, this is a clear confiscation,” said opposition Radical Party’s Ernesto Sanz at the time.

How will Americans react to having not only their wealth but their nest egg for future generations brazenly confiscated by the government in one fell swoop? If this doesn’t prompt widespread rioting and civil disobedience in America on behalf of the besieged middle class then nothing will.

Don’t be under any illusions, if you don’t have a private pension and think this won’t affect you – think again. Once the pretext has been created that the state can simply confiscate privately earned wealth, they can then come after anything, your gold, your home, your kids and eventually your very freedom. Once the vampire of big government gets a taste for blood, the teeth will only sink in further, and America’s resemblance to third world tyrannies will rapidly accelerate.

1 posted on 12/14/2010 5:26:31 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

“...being necessary for the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!”

Touch the 401Ks and pensions and it’s war.


2 posted on 12/14/2010 5:28:33 AM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: All

N.O.


3 posted on 12/14/2010 5:28:33 AM PST by Irenic
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To: IbJensen

The odds of this happening now are virtually zero.


4 posted on 12/14/2010 5:28:33 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: IbJensen

Obama needs to be arrested, tried for treason and brought to justice. He is a cancer on America that needs to be removed.


5 posted on 12/14/2010 5:29:35 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: IbJensen

I don’t think thInk there’s much chance of this passing with the new Congress coming in. But, I could be suprised.


6 posted on 12/14/2010 5:29:53 AM PST by MNGal
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To: thethirddegree

What’s the use of having a 401K if someone else-anyone- can take it?


7 posted on 12/14/2010 5:31:38 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: saganite

Maybe. Getting a measure like this through the house would be next to impossible. However, Obama could merely get the IRS to change the rules governing 401ks. He’s shown willingness to do by bureaucracy what he can’t get in the congress (EPA, FCC).


8 posted on 12/14/2010 5:31:58 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: IbJensen

There’s going to be so much free stuff from the govt. that you won’t NEED your 401K! Govt. will provide!


9 posted on 12/14/2010 5:32:43 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: IbJensen

If they are planning to try this, they had better get busy:

The deadline for the unions to get their act together on their pensions is 12/15/10. These funds would be the down payment on that. They are going to run out of time, I do believe.

And the chance of the new congress doing this is exactly ZERO.


10 posted on 12/14/2010 5:34:21 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: IbJensen

Bttt

All your 401k belong to us


11 posted on 12/14/2010 5:34:31 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Nightshift

Gnip


12 posted on 12/14/2010 5:35:42 AM PST by tutstar
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To: IbJensen

There will be open season on liberals if this happens......................


13 posted on 12/14/2010 5:36:09 AM PST by Red Badger (The House finally fell on Nancy Pelosi..........)
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To: saganite
“The odds of this happening now are virtually zero.”

The fact that it is even being talked about is astounding.

14 posted on 12/14/2010 5:37:12 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

Ping


15 posted on 12/14/2010 5:37:28 AM PST by tutstar
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To: IbJensen

This is NOT going to happen. It has been refuted.


17 posted on 12/14/2010 5:39:01 AM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Red Badger

Some liberals will join the hunt. They have 401K plans at risk also.


18 posted on 12/14/2010 5:39:06 AM PST by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: Daisyjane69

That’s good to know.

All of this seems to be a bit hysterical. Plus, if you read down into the comments on that page it begins to get into all sorts of really wacky conspiracy theory B.S. including a mention of 9/11 truther filth.

Crap like this gives the TEA party a bad name.


19 posted on 12/14/2010 5:39:44 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: IbJensen
Did you notice that the article appeared BEFORE the latest election.

It is now IRRELEVANT.

20 posted on 12/14/2010 5:39:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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