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To: SeekAndFind
Actually, I kinda like the Wedge document.

Did you miss the PR campaign part of it? It's not about science, it's about a religious movement. Note "teach the controversy." There was no scientific controversy over natural selection in general before, but through PR they created the perception of one, then tell people it should be taught.

Also, it isn’t as if the Discovery Institute is hiding its agenda or something, They’re pretty upfront about it.

Now they are, with the appropriate spin of course now that they've been caught. The Wedge Document was originally supposed to be "top secret" and not for distribution outside the Institute.

60 posted on 12/13/2010 3:08:44 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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ID supports evolution over billions of years except that the ID (no reference to God) jumps in every now and then to get over the hard parts in the development of man from pond scum and fundamental Christians are happy to hold hands with them. go figure.


61 posted on 12/13/2010 3:14:18 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: antiRepublicrat

RE: Did you miss the PR campaign part of it? It’s not about science, it’s about a religious movement. Note “teach the controversy.” There was no scientific controversy over natural selection in general before, but through PR they created the perception of one, then tell people it should be taught.


Let’s say there was a PR campaign, SO?

If you have something you feel is significant to share, why not advertise it or share it ?

Richard Dawkins and his cohorts support the atheistic campaign to “educate” people regarding the “falsity” of the story behind Christmas. Heck , there are posters being put up right now even as we speak. That’s Dawkins’ right. What he does with his own extra-academic time is his business.

SEE HERE FOR INSTANCE :

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Atheist-Billboard-on-Nativity-Scene-You-Know-Its-a-Myth-5979

Should we demand that he or his cohorts (many in academia) be fired because of it ? When he calls all people who believe in God delusional, should we demand that his position be terminated ? NOPE.

I want MORE DEBATE, MORE EXCHANGE OF IDEAS, MORE OPEN INQUIRY, NOT SILENCING OF PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH.

if you or anybody else do not share their conviction, you don’t have to adopt it.

And what does that have to do with one’s work in the academy ? Is he forcing his students or colleague to his belief ? If he is, then there is a case for dismissal, but not until.

One’s extra-currciular activities should be one’s business.

RE: The Wedge Document was originally supposed to be “top secret” and not for distribution outside the Institute

The Wedge Document was NEVER top secret. I’ve read it as early as when Dr. Philip Johnson authored its first draft and even wrote a book on it.

You can disagree with it, attack it, or debate its merits, but please, spare me your conspiracy theories.


74 posted on 12/14/2010 7:24:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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