Posted on 12/11/2010 10:55:58 PM PST by onyx
Next week will be crucial for gay rights advocates and congressional supporters of repealing the “Don't ask, don't tell” law.
Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) are working to garner support for a standalone bill to repeal the Clinton-era ban on openly gay people serving in the military. Lieberman and Collins formally introduced that bill on Friday.
The Senate this week dealt a severe blow to repeal when it fell short of the 60 votes necessary to start considering the defense authorization bill, which contains the repeal provision.
At this point the standalone repeal bill is a last-ditch effort. The strategy has the backing of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who is on standby to facilitate a successful vote in the House. Pelosi is part of the negotiations with the Senate to try to figure out the best and easiest way to pass repeal in the face of Republican opposition and a very crowded last week in session.
“Since the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ has broad support among Senators, our troops, and the American people, it is my hope that that the Senate will move forward with an alternative legislative method," Pelosi said in a statement on Thursday. "The bipartisan proposal from Senators Lieberman and Collins provides renewed hope that progress is still possible in the Senate; an army of allies stands ready in the House to pass a standalone repeal of the discriminatory policy once the Senate acts."
If the bill is considered as a freestanding piece of legislation, it will most likely require 60 hours of debate because of the lack of unanimous consent and two possible cloture votes.
Republicans might very well stick to their pledge to block any bills until they see approval of a tax-cut deal and legislation funding the government in 2011.
It is possible Reid, who backs repeal, will have to keep the Senate in session beyond the target adjournment date of Dec. 17 to complete the legislation. There would also be pressure on the House to stay in session to get it done.
Me too. That’s why I have been avoiding FR. I’ve got a quick bite on a short leash. lol
They deserve it. File those teeth nice and sharp and wade in! It’ll do you and them good!
:-)
I don’t think think that I want a time out. Never had one in 10 years and I don’t want to start now. :-)
I’ve taken a few breaks due to this and that.
Missed FR terribly at first and then discovered other things.
Sure was good to come back both times. In fact I think my profile page still says “I’m back!”
heheh
Warning the ickies.
I am not wrong. Nothing I said was inconsistent.
Recruits are tested for HIV. If they test positive, they cannot enter the military. However, once in the military, service members are tested every two years, and before and after each deployment. If they THEN test positive, they are not kicked out of the military, but they cannot be deployed overseas.
I suppose that it isn't inconsistent to edit your opinion as you post.
Wow... That would be inconsistent, but I haven’t edited anything. Read more carefully.
Also, I haven’t expressed a single opinion. I’ve only asserted facts.
You're boring. Have a nice day.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2641389/posts?page=54#54
You IGNORED the facts I stated in the above linked post.
Now either admit that I am right, or shut the heck up and go away.
You called me a liar in post 45, I posted backing proof.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2641389/posts?page=45#45
Soldiers with HIV are not being booted as you claimed.
Now either admit you were wrong, or shut up.
You can only choose one.
....crickets.....
Yeah, just had that happen over on another thread.
They’re rampant lately. BTW are you on LucyT’s freepmail list?
I’m aware of the list, don’t think I’m on it.
To try and explain my frustration, I’m going to replay this step by step. Then I’m done with this.
Onyx: “And what are they going to do to ensure a clean blood supply? Test the homos every month or spare them from the front lines?”
You: “That violates the medical right to privacy, so they won’t do that.”
Me:”You made that up. All recruits are tested for HIV, and a positive result precludes entry. They are tested at least every two years, and before and after each deployment.”
[Note how I never said that service members who are already in, and later test HIV+, are being booted from the military.]
You:”While recruits are tested, if homos turn up HIV positive AFTERWARDS it is hushed and not spoken of.”
Me:”OK, it may be “hushed up” in the sense that it isn’t announced to the world, and the service member isn’t kicked out. But an HIV+ service member is precluded from being deployed outside the continental U.S.”
[Note how I said that a service member who is already in, and later tests HIV+, is NOT booted from the military.]
You: “Here are some links, showing that HIV+ service members are NOT being booted from the military.”
[Note how I never said otherwise, and in fact admitted this fact before you posted the links.]
DJ MacWow: Ivyleaguebrat, inconsistent is you! First you say HIV+ can’t join the military, and then you say that once they’re in, they can’t be kicked out. Totally inconsistent!
Me: No, it isn’t. It’s the actual military policy, crazy as that sounds.
You: You ignored my links! ACCEPT MAH AUTHORATAH. HIV+ are not being booted!
Me: YES I KNOW I JUST SAID THAT SADFASDF)_#@$_#( /suicide
Have a nice evening.
There is not one upside to repealing DADT. Homosexuals in the military are already a problem.
All repealing DADT does is advance the homosexual agenda.
You really are such an interesting troll.
You called me a liar in your post 45.
I proved my point with facts.
Now either SHUT UP or admit that you were wrong.
Those are your only choices.
And you can only choose one.
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