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To: Lumper20
Wow! What authoritarianism!

Schools resemble prisons now. Why stop with mere school? Why not send all resistent teens to real government prison camps? /s

I have two questions.

1) Given the realities of the bell curve, what should be the reasonable percentage of people capable of graduating from high school? If everyone could graduate and do the work needed to graduate then the standards would be sooooo low that the diploma would have no value whatsoever.

For a high school diploma to have any value approximately 30 to 40% of the population should be utterly incapable of doing the work needed to acquire it. Perhaps this 30 to 40% of the population would be far better off leaving school at the age of 13 or 14 and going to work or moving into some sort of apprenticeship.

2) Why are you assuming that any education takes place in any institutional school? Where is the evidence? Where are the scientific studies that **prove** learning happens there? I have asked educators many times for links to these studies and no one has ever provided me with the studies.

I owned, and was the doctor in, a busy health clinic. Over my career I had the opportunity to know many parents and their kids. I observed that parents of academically successful homeschoolers and institutionally schooled children both reported **exactly the same** home study habits and home environments. So?...How much learning is happening in any institutional school? How much is **entirely** due to the efforts of the child ( on his own) and the parents in the **home**?

Where is the evidence that proves schools are doing little more (or less) than merely sending home a curriculum for the parents and child to follow in the home?

Before condemning thousands upon thousands of young adults to school prison, maybe we should **know** the answers to the above questions.

But...Even more important are the constitutional and human rights questions of sentencing young adults ( who have committed no crime) to government school prison.

68 posted on 12/09/2010 1:39:25 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: wintertime

30-40% should be incapable of achieving a HS Diploma?

You asked a question then answered it.


71 posted on 12/09/2010 2:11:06 PM PST by Lumper20
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