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To: palmer

Global Temperature Increase is naturally occurring due to the fact that we are still coming out of the last ice age.

As the temperature increases, the tree line on mountains will get higher, decomposition rates of dead plant and animals will change. Shift in the earth’s crust will cause land masses to rise in response to melting glaciers.

All of these are going on now and will be for the next 800 years regardless. These create an increased CO2 output by nature.

Surely all the models don’t assume that Nature’s CO2 output is static.

In other words, the argument currently is if there wasn’t any man on planet earth that the earth wouldn’t be seeing any increase and CO2 and it wouldn’t experience any warming. It would be completely stable. Does that sound right? I don’t think so.

I have to find that video for you guys. Once you look at the entire train of co-efficients you see how little we really contribute to the problem and therefore have almost no influence over fixing it. Nature is just so powerful.


94 posted on 12/09/2010 12:20:29 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
In other words, the argument currently is if there wasn't any man on planet earth that the earth wouldn't be seeing any increase and CO2 and it wouldn't experience any warming. It would be completely stable. Does that sound right? I don't think so.

That is correct. Natural warming caused some CO2 increase in the past and that continues variably to the present. You are correct that none of that is in the climate models. What the video may not go into, or underemphasize, is the sheer volume of manmade CO2. I am one of those people who believe that all the manmade CO2 is not a problem, nor will it ever be, and will only cause a little extra warming. We have arrayed against us a multi-billion dollar industry determined to "prove" that the extra CO2 will cause catastrophe.

96 posted on 12/09/2010 12:29:33 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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