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Islamists raise fears of violent 'clash of cultures' in Europe
MSNBC ^ | 12/8/10 | Ian Johnston

Posted on 12/08/2010 4:15:46 AM PST by Kartographer

It is a Sunday night in London's East End and the self-styled "most hated man in Britain" is holding court, reveling in his vision of a Taliban victory over America and a world under Islamic Shariah law.

The crowd of about 250 listens intently as Anjem Choudary issues a call to arms in the pristine surroundings of the newly refurbished art deco conference center, built to host weddings and business meetings.

"There are many battlefields," he says calmly into a microphone. "There's a battlefield outside 10 Downing Street [home to Britain's prime minister] and in the mountains of the Tora Bora [in Afghanistan]."

Any man who fails to fight, he warns, will face difficulty when the "angel of death" arrives and he is forced to explain to Allah why he did not raise his hand "against the oppressor" out of fear. "Allah will say to him, 'Am I not more worthy to be feared than them?'" Choudary says.

"Allahu Akbar!" the men shout out in unison, as if a war cry, during his speech. "Allahu Akbar." God is great.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
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Coming soon to America.
1 posted on 12/08/2010 4:15:49 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Needs arsenic in his fallafel.


2 posted on 12/08/2010 4:19:12 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: Kartographer

Fear of clash? The Islamists are gang raping
British children and selling them as sex slaves.

Like America, and the rest of the EU (eg. Sweden),
it is ignored.

The war is on, and the West has almost lost.


3 posted on 12/08/2010 4:19:49 AM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: Kartographer

What do you mean, “coming soon”?

It’s already here, and has been for quite some time.


4 posted on 12/08/2010 4:19:57 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Kartographer

Tolerance begets intolerance


5 posted on 12/08/2010 4:20:34 AM PST by databoss
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To: Kartographer

Eradicate</Dalek>


6 posted on 12/08/2010 4:23:02 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Kartographer
"Allah will say to him, 'Am I not more worthy to be feared than them?'"

nup

7 posted on 12/08/2010 4:23:56 AM PST by mitch5501 (fine!)
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To: Kartographer

I want to hear the sweet crack on an atom followed by seeing a dust cloud that was mecca.

LLS


8 posted on 12/08/2010 4:29:04 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Kartographer

“Coming soon to America.”
Maybe so. BUT.
Unlike Britain and Europe, Americans are ARMED.


9 posted on 12/08/2010 4:29:51 AM PST by Cyclops08
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To: Diogenesis

Please do not speak for all of us... islam will never win... at least not in Mississippi... and every single MAN that I know will bet his life on it... bank on it.

LLS


10 posted on 12/08/2010 4:30:37 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Kartographer
Interesting that whatever is behind our societal inability to fight ‘islamic peaceful takeover or we'll kill you’ looks very similar to our inability to fight progressivism. Self delusion? Denial? Stupidity? Whatever it is, we're rapidly running out of time to address it.
11 posted on 12/08/2010 4:34:51 AM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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“Given his rhetoric, some in Britain question Choudary’s right to freedom of speech.”

Duh! You can get charged with hate speech in Europe for much, much lesser rhetoric if it's directed in the other direction. This is absolutely unacceptable. What this jerk and his followers are doing is sedition.

12 posted on 12/08/2010 4:43:32 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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Photo: Anjem Choudary. Notice the flag in the background?

That's the one Al Qaeda uses. It is black with the Shahada in white.
13 posted on 12/08/2010 5:11:09 AM PST by WaterBoard
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To: WaterBoard

There’s a cash cow waiting for whoever makes and sells an Anjem Choudary pistol target.


14 posted on 12/08/2010 5:53:09 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: Kartographer
This Austrian legislator get's it.
15 posted on 12/08/2010 6:07:36 AM PST by blam
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“I think we are on the brink of many more operations in the West. This is going to be very, very nasty ... The Muslims engaged in jihad are not going to stop. People will declare jihad in Britain and America. I don’t think you can stomach something like that.”

There have to be consequences for them, and it has to involve something that matters to them. It may get to the point at which the West has to say, ‘for every act of terrorism we will take away a piece of Islamic land, or destroy an Islamic holy site.’ Flame away, but you obviously can’t reason with them in any normal diplomatic sense.


16 posted on 12/08/2010 6:22:39 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: blam

I just watched that video. Good find. Good to know that at least some Europeans have common sense.


17 posted on 12/08/2010 7:04:12 AM PST by MrInvisible
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Islam is a vile, barbaric, gutter religion for a vile, barbaric, gutter people. Both need to be wiped from the face of the earth.


18 posted on 12/08/2010 7:06:35 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Kartographer
"Allah will say to him, 'Am I not more worthy to be feared than them?'" Choudary says.

Somehow I find it telling that so much of the rhetoric coming from these advocates of "The Religion of Peace" talks of hate and war. Contrast this with the words & actions of the Christ. As the "Prince of Peace" he advised his followers to turn the other cheek, to be lambs amongst the lions and to look to Heaven for reward.

19 posted on 12/08/2010 7:54:03 AM PST by SES1066 (Thank you for your vote in November, now let us get to work!)
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It is only a matter of time before the Europeans (as opposed to their governments) rise up and strike back: "A backlash is growing. Support for the far-right in normally liberal countries like Sweden and the Netherlands is on the rise. French lawmakers voted for a ban on full face veils. Protest groups, such as the English Defense League...have made headlines.

"Experts estimate that there are 5,000 to 10,000 Islamists across Europe willing to engage in violence in support of Shariah law. Le Beau warned of "an incipient clash of cultures." The consequences of another terrorist spectacular...could be profound, "I could see that leading to a spontaneous violent reaction on the part of others..."

20 posted on 12/08/2010 11:17:45 AM PST by La Lydia
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