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Military chief favors legalizing young immigrants
The Washington Post ^ | Tuesday, December 7, 2010; 2:09 PM | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

Posted on 12/07/2010 3:31:32 PM PST by TheRevolution1776

WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon's manpower chief made the Obama administration's latest long-shot pitch Tuesday to revive faltering legislation to legalize young immigrants who came to the country illegally.

Clifford Stanley, the undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, called the measure, known as the Dream Act, a "commonsense" and "obvious" way to attract more high-quality recruits to the armed forces. It faces long odds in Congress, where most Republicans and a handful of Democrats are likely to band together to block it from advancing in a test-vote expected Wednesday.

The legislation would give hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants brought to the United States before the age of 16, and who have been here for five years and graduated from high school or gained an equivalency degree, a chance to gain legal status if they joined the military or attended college.

"They're actually doing very well in our schools, many of them. They're high quality," Stanley told reporters in a conference call. "As we look at our force now for the future, bringing in talented people in this cyclical nature of how our recruiting business goes is significant."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; dreamact
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Call me paranoid, but wouldn't this be dangerous to us Americans on a different level that immigration ? They are willing to legalize millions of fighting age men and women, who now hold a biased loyalty to a political party instead of the Flag and Nation, which is what your average recruit pledges to and believes in. Now they will make up a large portion of our military, put together all of the DOD talks of needing to train for financial ruins and preparing the armed forces for riot control. Who better to do it without question than blind allegiance from the little boy and girl you gave citizenship too ? Anyone else see this ? Or am I crazy ?
1 posted on 12/07/2010 3:31:39 PM PST by TheRevolution1776
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To: TheRevolution1776

Yeah, that’s just what we need in the military. A bunch of criminals with no respect for our country’s laws.


2 posted on 12/07/2010 3:34:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: TheRevolution1776
You are not crazy but 100% correct.

The Roman Empire brought non-Romans into the military who had allegiance to an emperor, never to Rome itself. This is the kiss of death.

3 posted on 12/07/2010 3:35:54 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: TheRevolution1776

In fairness to the General, but it’s not far from what we already allow. You don’t have to be a US citizen to enlist in the military, although you do have to be here legally.

You have to be either a citizen or a Lawfully Admitted Permanent Resident (LAPR) to enlist, but you do have to become a citizen to get promoted to E6, IIRC.


4 posted on 12/07/2010 3:36:51 PM PST by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: TheRevolution1776
Clifford Stanley, the undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness,

What are his Military credentials? Has he served...has he served in a combat situation?

5 posted on 12/07/2010 3:37:06 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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"They're actually doing very well in our schools, many of them. They're high quality,"

Yeah; on the TAXPAYERS' DIME, Jackass.

The point is that Anchor Babies and Illegals of ANY persuasion are simply foreign Nationals who have lived off the backs of Taxpayers, and deserve NOTHING but a boot in the ass back to where they came from, to get in line with those who want to LEGALLY enter, and who want to be assimilated into OUR Society. We don't need inter-loping Criminals, or their off-spring, and rewarding them in any way, shape, or form, to the tune of Billions of Dollars and their thumbing their noses at us, is pure idiocy.

6 posted on 12/07/2010 3:39:14 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Cicero

This is just stupid to allow young illegals into the country hoping that they join the military.

However, I have no problem with an immigrant, illegal or otherwise, upon completion of a three years’ service, pass basic security clearances and who can pass the citizenship test being granted citizenship.


7 posted on 12/07/2010 3:40:47 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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To: Don Corleone

I don’t know how helpful this is:
http://www.defense.gov/bios/biographydetail.aspx?biographyid=245


8 posted on 12/07/2010 3:43:42 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Military Chiefs work for CIC, they know how to tell him what he wants to hear.


9 posted on 12/07/2010 3:45:00 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Don Corleone

Just Wow!

http://www.getliberty.org/files/NomineeAlert%20Clifford%20Stanley%20DOD%20UnderSec%20Personnel%20and%20Readiness%2011_30_09.pdf


10 posted on 12/07/2010 3:46:16 PM PST by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: TheRevolution1776

No you are not crazy. These people are pure evil. A lot of people here and in the country are delusional thinking they are going to give up. We are boiling frog with these facists.


11 posted on 12/07/2010 3:51:10 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Yeah Gang bangers with Military training,nice move General.


12 posted on 12/07/2010 3:52:58 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Yes, this strategy of bucking up the military worked so well for the Roman Empire that we need to do it, too.


13 posted on 12/07/2010 3:54:32 PM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Quite honestly, I am starting to get tired of this lowest common denominator policy that our military seems to have when it comes to recruitment.

It seems the liberals have infected our military bureaucracy with their mediocrity just as much as every other institution in America.

We got that one little homo who had a tizzy fit with his boyfriend and decided to commit treason.

I just heard on the radio last night another traitor came out of the wood work and was selling secrets for 2000 bucks.

We had that one Muslim officer go off his rocker in Texas.

Your duty, regardless of rank, in the military is defend the US Constitution.

How can we depend on people to defend the US Constitution when their first interaction with the US is to spit and take a dump on our sovereignty and our laws?

Seriously, if it ever came to pass that the US had to go war with Mexico, would all these little Mexican punks waving their Mexican flags, demanding that the US return the American Southwest to Mexico and calling for all White people to return to Europe go to war for us or turn our own guns on us?

I have no doubt that they would be chanting “Viva La Raza” and shoot as many Americans as possible in the name of “social justice.”

There are lot of good Mexican folks in the US, but so many have been radicalized by public education and our Marxist university system to hate the US and Americans that, quite frankly, I find them a threat to our national security instead of being good, honest recruits for the military that would defend the interests and the Constitution of the United States.


14 posted on 12/07/2010 3:55:53 PM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: TheRevolution1776
I was in the Marine Corps back in the 60s and in one of my units at Camp Lejeune we had one guy from Canada and another from Mexico.
While I don't know what their motives were for joining the US military (citizenship, thrill seeking, etc.) they served with honor.
Just saying.
15 posted on 12/07/2010 4:00:40 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: TheRevolution1776

The Romans tried it 1700 years ago.

It didn’t work out well for them.


16 posted on 12/07/2010 4:06:49 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one in progress.)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Since when do Pentagon highers-up weigh in on domestic legislation like this, that is, not directly related to the defense of our country, before Congress votes on it? What about the ol’ civilian-controlled military idea?


17 posted on 12/07/2010 4:09:14 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: TheRevolution1776

Any support of Illegal Aliens is Amnesty....there are some serious issues in our military when we have those in charge of the military refusing to enforce our laws.

There is a big difference between a LEGAL IMMIGRANT serving and an ILLEGAL ALIEN. A legal immigrant has taken the time and money to go through the necessary steps to enter the USA legally. An Illegal Alien has broken the law.


18 posted on 12/07/2010 4:18:02 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Communist Chinese workers aren't paying for those welfare and unemployment benefits)
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To: Cicero

I thought it; you said it.


19 posted on 12/07/2010 4:34:54 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: TheRevolution1776

Actually you’re quite on the mark.

Foreign troops either enlisted or drafted once inside the borders are the ones that will be doing the “enforcing” that native born troops will refuse to do. If we all remember back to the Tiananmen Square events of 89 they had to get troops from another region of China to enforce the kings will. Locals refused. Our own Civil war, most union troops by the end were foreign born Irish and Slavic recruited directly from the docks. Rome: What is there to say? When Rome collapsed the whole military machine was dominated by foreign troops. Mercenaries from Scandinavia (The Varangian guard) did all the fighting for the eastern empire right up to its last days.

We have met the enemy and he is not one of us.


20 posted on 12/07/2010 4:38:14 PM PST by duffus (Deport all Aliens, Secure the Border, Recall the Troops, Shrink the Government.)
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